00:11:24 @??dire elephant 00:11:25 dire elephant (02Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 90-198 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Damage: 40, 5 | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 2421. 00:11:39 @??dire elephant 00:11:39 dire elephant (02Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 90-198 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Damage: 40, 5 | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 2421. 00:12:01 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:12:50 @??dire elephant 00:12:50 dire elephant (02Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 90-198 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Damage: 40, 5 | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 2421. 00:12:53 Huh. 00:13:26 @?dire elephant 00:13:26 unknown monster: "dire elephant" 00:13:33 greensnark: Ping! 00:14:59 Huh. 00:16:19 Napkin! napking! <3 00:33:53 due! 00:34:00 what's up? :) 00:34:25 @??dire elephant 00:34:25 dire elephant (02Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 90-198 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Damage: 40, 5 | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 2421. 00:34:31 I updated @?? but it still shows HD 18 00:34:43 I even checked the mon-data in the monster's git subdirectory and that has a HD of 15. 00:35:15 timestamp of ~/bin/monster* ? 00:35:35 lemme check 00:35:42 but even running ./monster-trunk dire elephant spits out the wrong info 00:36:04 * Napkin holds on tightly to his first coffee of the day * 00:36:46 i could you imagine you didn't run the proper install target..? 00:36:50 hm 00:36:55 make install-trunk was what I used 00:38:53 the binary is not stripped 00:38:59 that's not normal ;) 00:40:23 it's not stripping automatically :-O 00:40:29 hm 00:40:45 run "make clean install-trunk" again 00:41:04 and then please use strip -s on the binary 00:41:45 maybe the clean is needed 00:44:44 :) 00:44:56 argh 00:45:28 * due running 00:45:43 :D 00:47:09 @??dire elephant 00:47:09 dire elephant (02Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 15 | Health: 75-150 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Damage: 40, 5 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 1574. 00:47:12 Yaaay 00:47:17 excellent :) 00:47:23 @??death yak 00:47:23 death yak (08Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 14 | Health: 42-112 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Damage: 30 | Res: 06magic(93) | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 1059. 00:50:10 i stripped the binary 00:50:28 thanks 00:50:29 54mb -> 7.9mb 00:50:34 * due in ur binary, strippin it 00:51:24 I added that to the install procedure once - but I guess someone needed to debug it and removed that line 00:51:29 due: kinky 01:00:55 Huh 01:01:04 ments/packages/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des:678: Map too large - 56x16 (max 53x46) 01:01:07 Since when? 01:06:11 Hm. 01:06:17 Vault issues with lair: ruination should not be done to them. 01:35:32 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:09 so how many chunks do dire elephants give 01:38:14 due: That map-too-large message sounds like you're trying to use a north/south type orient 01:38:43 Or east/west here 01:39:16 NSEW orientations impose a max size of GXM*2/3 and GYM*2/3 01:39:31 Napkin: I removed the strip and forgot to put it back in 02:10:37 -!- Madtrixr has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21:13 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:25:05 thought so, greensnark :) 02:26:37 Ahhh. 02:27:13 Makes sense, I guess. 02:28:46 greensnark: Still around? 02:49:05 03due * r9e39fb4d790d 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Don't ruin vaults when building the Lair. 02:54:00 greensnark: Can you check that for me? I think I did it right. 03:01:21 I remember doy doing something about vaults when he added the ruination 03:02:46 Hm, doesn't seem to work on PLACE: vaults,then. 03:03:14 maybe I misremeber: there's a commit to save special rooms only 03:03:40 not sure how say the slime entry vaults survive 03:04:56 yeah, hm. 03:05:38 your change does sound sensible 03:06:26 also, the minivaults with a necromancer and simulacri still seem to work in lair 03:06:34 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:08:38 doy: if you happen to be around, do you remember how _ruin_level interacts (is meant to interact) with vaults? 03:12:59 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:17 ogaz: yeah, which is odd that it ruind my thingy 03:18:40 due: yeah 03:23:35 -!- Madtrixr has joined ##crawl-dev 03:27:14 ruin? 03:28:56 maybe different types of vaults are placed before or after ruination? 03:29:01 Yeah, likely. 03:32:02 Zaba: Around? 03:32:07 sort of 03:32:09 I'm relatively happy with most of this map, except for one p0art. 03:32:42 which map/ 03:32:45 Zaba: http://pastebin.ca/1884920 03:34:16 I don't like the top 03:34:24 I'm happy with ever6ything else 03:34:38 hm, I think I can see why you don't like it 03:34:50 It's just this long empty annoying bit. 03:35:03 due: some natural traps might be nice in it, if you're willing to make new ones 03:35:20 ogaz: definitely, though I want to get the basic map done first 03:36:11 duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue 03:36:15 due, you could make some chambers accessible through doors in that long corridor, I guess. 03:36:31 I suppose so 03:36:33 rather than through doors on that corridor's ends 03:37:42 what do you think of... 03:37:56 http://pastebin.ca/1884923 03:39:29 looks better, but I would remove that northwest chamber, the one with trees in it, for the sake of symmetry, and move the trees and the enclosed | a little lower.. 03:39:52 hm, well, i'm trying to get across the idea that it's ruined: it used to be symmetrical, but the whole thing has collapsed 03:40:01 which is why there's hhalf of the doorway (with the single statue) on the northeast side. 03:40:29 ah, well, for that effect I would (randomly) mix some trees and perhaps rock walls into the stone walls. But not too much. 03:40:36 03by * r1babb482820f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (20 files): Clean up brace placement. 03:40:52 and probably not on the inside 03:41:24 then, you would be able to retain the symmetry, and then let the dungeon builder mess it up for you instead :P 03:42:24 :) 03:42:32 Well, I've done 03:43:00 * due pastebinning 03:43:11 http://pastebin.ca/1884924 03:43:39 It has a nice effect 03:55:24 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17:11 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:01 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:03 03kilobyte * r7d372e36bdbc 10/crawl-ref/source/output.cc: Show Death's Door and Death Channel on the status bar [1774]. 04:31:15 can you think of a way to kill a monster not caused by hp loss? 04:31:30 hydra + flaming sword 04:31:53 drowning 04:31:59 burnt to cinders, possibly? 04:32:03 asphyxiation, maybe not 04:32:04 lava 04:32:51 abjuration and summoning timeout almost count 04:33:29 hydras call hurt(hit_points) 04:34:19 I mean "kill" as in "something that produces a corpse and perhaps xp" 04:34:59 it's about firefly riders, so drowning/lava is out (at least until the actual split) 04:35:32 hm 04:35:37 fedhas's ability? 04:35:42 er, decomposition ability, rather. 04:36:38 not zombifiable (would be too much trouble) 04:37:40 actually, I've written the split-on-death code first, but with split-on-hurt(), it's redundant and I wonder if it can be removed 04:38:00 since react_to_damage() is always called even for lethal damage 04:45:28 yeah 04:45:37 Explosion is still damage, yeah? 04:47:32 yeah 04:48:05 another question: I wonder how gods should react to such a double kill 04:49:22 double kill? 04:49:47 spriggan rider + firefly 04:52:03 er. 04:52:38 new monster in the works 04:52:41 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:44 ah 04:52:47 the firefly looks extra-cute. 04:55:45 should the gods consider each kill separately, or get any reward/penalty only when you get the second one? 04:56:43 (it's likely you'll kill either the mount or the rider first) 04:58:04 I thinkthey should consider both separately. 05:00:28 ok, thanks 05:02:54 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 05:15:13 Huh,my Lair:8 takes fofrever to build. 05:25:07 can an abyss vault have a chance for both an exit and a rune? 05:29:58 sure? 05:29:59 I'm not surehow that would function 05:30:09 well i was wondering how the two tags would interact 05:30:21 btw due your kobold vault defines P as both enter_abyss and exit_abyss 05:30:55 Oop. 05:30:59 I should fix that. 05:46:31 are they damaged after being placed? i just tried to test one by letting it gen normally and the walls were full of holes 05:49:40 03kilobyte * r1591c267c9d7 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files): Poor_Yurik's spriggan firefly riders. 05:49:49 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:28 <333333 05:50:32 Firefly riders zomg. 05:50:46 Mu_: greensnark was talking about explicit tags to allow corruption 05:50:57 so that sounds like a bug? 05:51:21 KiloByte: how hard would it be to do kraken riding sirens now? 05:51:53 Firefly riders? O_o 05:53:02 kraken riding sirens... I thought only NetHack allows sexual references. 05:53:28 :D 05:53:36 siren/krakenftw 06:03:23 03kilobyte * r75ab1bf1d2ee 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des: Add riders to a vault. 06:05:13 I wonder abour colours. Druids being dark green is obvious. But what with vanillas, riders, defenders, the Enchantress and perhaps others? 06:14:13 Vanillas should be lightgrey... 06:14:32 Defenders should blue, because...blue. Riders as yellow or brown. 06:14:39 The Enchantress should be magenta or lightblue. 06:15:26 it should be at least somehow consistent with other monsters' colors, I guess. 06:15:38 Tier-colouring? I guess. 06:18:39 I'd prefer defenders being highly visible, since they're rare bosses (like javelineers). 06:19:23 Ahhh, okay. 06:19:38 So it goes vanilla -> something -> defender -> rider -> enchantress? 06:20:08 @??spriggandruid 06:20:08 unknown monster: "spriggandruid" 06:20:12 @??spriggan druid 06:20:12 spriggan druid (03i) | Speed: 16 | HD: 12 | Health: 24-48 | AC/EV: 1/25 | Damage: 10 | Flags: spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(112) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 1096 | Sp: sunray (3d19), awaken forest, caniforms, minor healing. 06:22:07 riders are not intended to be particularly hard 06:22:20 but the stats for all of them are totally random 06:22:43 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:58 dpeg!<3 06:23:25 Hi! 06:28:33 -!- Spads has left ##crawl-dev 06:28:36 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:43 * KiloByte meows at peg 'D'. 06:31:37 KiloByte: cool action at the Spriggan front! 06:31:53 I have elephant statues! 06:31:59 due: woo! 06:32:13 * KiloByte ponders ogre riders. 06:32:18 That turn into elephants when Kaa^W the anaconda dies. 06:32:20 due: new player species: elephant man? :) 06:32:30 dpeg: Wellllll.. 06:32:36 I considered elephant-people. 06:32:44 But I wantto do ant-peoplefirst. 06:33:03 I should also code Grinder. 06:38:28 for the Enchantress, is 40 EV and DMsl enough? 06:38:35 does hitting an elephant with an ankus have a special effect 06:39:07 Mu_: yes, it reaches out and smacks you with its trunk 06:40:31 ;p 06:50:39 KiloByte: Ithinkso. 06:51:47 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 06:56:59 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:58:40 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:22 Mu_: abyss vaults should not be damaged, can you put up a screenshot of what happened? 07:07:44 I want to reuse doy's ruin_level code for abyss vaults, but only for vaults that ask for it 07:09:21 Oh, the reason that minivaults were not being ruined in the Lair is that ruin_level runs before minivaults are placed, but after the layout skeleton is built 07:09:35 So primary vaults will get hit by ruin_level without due's change 07:10:41 Thought that might be the case 07:19:59 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:21:05 After having listened to Lady Gaga's Bad Romance for six hours non-stop (as forced to do by Mr. Shaligram), I can now officially declare that this is a great song. However, I do suspect that its really a 40 AD protest song from Palestine: "I slam bad Romans." 07:21:21 ... 07:21:27 ! 07:21:57 crawl needs an official soundtrack 07:21:58 wra-wra-wrahahaha :) 07:22:18 bhaak: there's a song "Crawl Stagger Fall" by Benümb. 07:22:49 greensnark: http://pastebin.com/SM8gRGjV that shows what the vault looks like, then two abyss levels that had a badly destroyed version (it might be difficult to tell where the vault is in those map dumps but look for the fountains and work out from there) 07:23:33 Mu_: wizmode corruption testing? 07:24:28 i'm just using wizmode to generate new abyss levels 07:24:50 sometimes the vault gens fine and without damage, usually on the more open abyss levels 07:26:45 dpeg: grindcore? I never was hip or angry enough to like such stuff :) 07:27:18 bhaak: what can I say? It's what I listen to whenever I am not on Lady Gaga duties. 07:28:33 dpeg: show national pride! listen to rammstein and tokio hotel! ;-) 07:29:56 bhaak: There are so many good German bands: Mörser, Slaughter of the Innocent, Pink Flamingos, or even the classics, Sodom, Destruction... no need for RS and TH :) 07:29:57 tokio hotel is pride? 07:30:01 No! 07:30:21 Mu_: How are you placing the vault again? 07:30:22 My response would be moreoneof disgust. 07:30:42 dpeg has always stated how fond he is of Rammstein :) 07:30:51 pffff :) 07:30:57 Rammstein amuse me. 07:31:23 greensnark, i'm not, i'm just generating abyss levels and letting it come up on its own. i just got an interesting one where the vault generated almost complete in the top right, but the front bit was fragmented throughout the level (the ! in the vault are chaos cloud generators so it's easy to tell). 07:31:56 Ah, can you pastebin your vault code so I can give it a spin 07:32:14 Why not use hightlighters? 07:32:19 We should add anfprop for thatin. 07:32:26 It's possible there's a bug in the abyss shift code, I'd like to check 07:32:33 It could just be a mapping glitch though 07:32:38 Did you physically jump into the vault to check? 07:32:46 Abyss mapping update can be weird 07:33:43 yes, the vault is as fragmented as mapping makes it appear 07:33:49 "The bosom of this dungeon contains the most powerful artefact, the Orb of Zot." 07:33:52 http://pastebin.com/PcXXmXkK 07:34:25 It should be fragile. If you drop it, it smashes. 07:34:58 Are you going to hav etime to finish that before the abyss shifts? 07:35:46 greensnark: not good? 07:36:02 Johanna was _very_ fond of giving the player some clue what he's supposed to do. 07:36:08 No Marduks, but still... 07:36:45 due: i hope not 07:37:00 And people thought my lichling vault was evil?Sheesh! 07:37:56 "bosom"? 07:38:08 Mu_: Aha, I just reproduced the problem 07:38:27 :) 07:38:45 dpeg: "bosom of this dungeon" will sound funny to native english speakers :) 07:39:12 lichlings are evil, this one is beyond words 07:39:13 it also sounds funny to non-native players 07:39:29 sometimes i get stray chunks of the vault all over the level, even though those same chunks also generated normally within a completed portion of the vault 07:39:46 several mut fog generators and nasty monsters just for a 16% chance for the rune 07:40:13 it's a ridiculous vault it wont stay like this :p 07:40:24 greensnark: the players might think that this game is not appropriate for children :) 07:40:25 i was @ the testing stage ;-) 07:40:41 "bosom of thisdungeon" sounds very old-fashioned. 07:41:09 03dolorous * r1971a6be4a7b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (17 files in 5 dirs): Revert renames: blessed blade -> holy blade, trishula -> holy trishula. 07:41:10 Mu_: It's a bug, abyss_exit vaults are not being correctly handled 07:41:11 it does steal the chances for both abyss_exit and abyss_rune, too 07:41:18 "Go down and get it" also slightly ambiguous 07:41:37 When generating a new area if an abyss_exit vault is placed, it will then promptly be smashed as the rest of the area is generated 07:41:39 bhaak: True, that could be talking about oral sex, for all we know. 07:41:57 due: it didn't want to spell it out :-) 07:43:12 oki 07:44:04 i suppose it should only be tagged as a rune vault anyway 07:44:35 greensnark: I'll remove the line. 07:45:05 dpeg: Or you could change it to something like "depths of this dungeon" or "dark heart of this dungeon" 07:45:36 At least in India people think of "bosom" as a quaint old-fashioned way of saying "breast" 07:46:12 I thought that "bosom" would be the womb. 07:46:17 ! 07:46:21 "Rock my soul in the bosom of Abraham..." 07:46:33 womb != brest, greensnark 07:46:42 bhaak: what's wrong with it. 07:47:02 dpeg: what due said 07:47:54 dpeg: that's a problem if you get your English only from roguelikes, heavy metal and mathematics journals! 07:48:19 03dolorous * rfe6c613cf061 10/crawl-ref/source/ghost.cc: Change the last of (very) ugly things' attack types to trunk-slap. 07:48:57 Do mathematicians talk about bosoms a lot? 07:49:11 I didn't know! 07:49:17 I am burned out. I wanted to do Johanna one favour before she left. 07:49:18 ever looked closely at those sinuses? 07:49:48 03greensnark * r7e69d9221025 10/crawl-ref/source/abyss.cc: Fix abyss area gen destroying abyss_exit vaults (Mu_). 07:49:56 Mu_: Thanks, should be fixed now 07:49:59 ty greensnark 07:59:23 * due hugs dpeg. 08:15:26 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:20:15 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:23 morning everyone 08:20:34 will demonspawn get a "trunk" mutation? 08:21:12 Elephant demon! 08:21:20 It's Poor_Yurik! 08:21:39 Poor_Yurik: due was looking for you for some pachydermatous reasons :) 08:22:02 can dire elephants walk through deep water? 08:23:09 Don't know about walking, but RL elephants can swim quite well 08:23:24 *Real-life 08:23:47 Already starting work on the dire elephant 08:24:01 Poor_Yurik: <3 08:24:39 I actually made something else I am slowly showing people 08:27:30 greensnark, do you see DCC requests? 08:29:08 No idea how to dcc, actually :) 08:29:19 tell me if you see something pop up 08:29:24 I did 08:29:38 is there an accept button? 08:29:43 it's just a file transfer 08:29:49 irssi tells me DCC SEND from Poor_Yurik [67.87.140.7 port 4341]: dungeonrevamp_spec_lrg.png [464kB] 08:29:58 ah, I use mirc 08:32:10 irssi says it can't connect: DCC can't connect to 67.87.140.7 port 4341 08:33:04 Ok, exciting round of meetings coming up to kill my brain 08:34:33 did you do DCC GET [ []] ? 08:35:32 Yes 08:36:01 took me way too long to find that command in the irssi documentation 08:42:30 Wish I had some good webspace 08:42:46 photobucket and flickr do terrible things to image size and quality 08:47:13 -!- ortoslon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:54 how would you say "non-Euclidean" while fitting to our fantasy setting? 08:48:42 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:42 Poor_Yurik: I've pushed the spriggans forward quite a good deal 08:52:55 03kilobyte * rcdb2fd2e9f84 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc enum.h mon-data.h mon-gear.cc mon-spll.h mon-util.cc): Spriggans: defenders and the Enchantress. 08:52:59 03kilobyte * rfdbcd4162253 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc mon-data.h mon-enum.h): Make monster DMsl an actual flag. 08:53:02 03kilobyte * raa066d06814d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dbg-util.cc mon-enum.h mon-util.cc mon-util.h monster.h): Make monster->flags 64 bit. 08:53:04 03kilobyte * r9669f0be51fa 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-gear.cc: Give some spriggan riders a blowgun. 08:53:04 do you have a separate tile for a firefly without its rider? 08:53:05 03kilobyte * r0b41f35df72d 10/crawl-ref/source/directn.cc: Show DMsl when looking at the monster. 08:53:07 03kilobyte * r5f542f492aa7 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Descs for dwarves and spriggans. 08:57:51 there's a spriggan branch in trunk now? 08:57:59 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:54 Kilobyte, awesome 08:59:17 We should talk about unit types so I know what else to make tiles for. 08:59:27 I want to get all the spriggan tiles done within the next week or two 08:59:38 Greensnark, you still here? 09:00:40 wow, just got an add with unmuteable sound on a major website :( 09:03:22 Kilobyte, I was planning on making a seperate firefly 09:03:27 not done yet though 09:03:29 * KiloByte thanks all the gods for AdBlock 09:04:02 Might be hard for a rider to fire a blowgun while trying to hang on to the back of those things 09:04:30 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:35 I was thinking today about like a blowgun dart that could slow the player, some poisons slow the muscles 09:04:56 like as an especially nasty blowgun darter ammo 09:05:03 might be too nasty though 09:05:44 needles of slowing and curare are already in the game 09:05:49 actually, it might be cool to have spriggan weapon poisons be especially nasty to seperate them from like snake or ant poison for instance 09:05:50 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:59 ah cool. how about poison that causes confusion? 09:06:12 that would be pretty f'd up :D 09:06:28 morning enne 09:06:32 Howdy! :) 09:07:52 needle brands: poison, curare, paralysis, slow, sleep, sickness, frenzy 09:08:03 03dolorous * r75c9a2f10412 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Add wording and punctuation fixes. 09:08:19 frenzy is like confusion+berserk 09:08:40 03enne.walker * r24927105884e 10/crawl-ref/source/menu.cc: [1744] Fix describe view crash on neutral mon. 09:08:41 03enne.walker * r3c0f0fd49089 10/crawl-ref/source/menu.cc: Add good neutral tile to describe view menu. 09:08:48 03enne.walker * rdbce93e41e35 10/crawl-ref/source/menu.cc: Fix comment grammar in menu.cc. 09:09:41 by the way, what about giving curare the same check that the new needle effects have? 09:10:19 I think it's quite stupid that every character should be carrying curare and a blowgun 09:13:30 by: I agree 09:15:03 03kilobyte * r858f2f16a346 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc mon-data.h mon-enum.h): Phase Shift for monsters -- as an always-on flag, like monster DMsl. 09:15:04 the new needle brands are totally useless for a vast majority of characters 09:15:57 Is it ok if I put all my updated kobolds in one report? 09:17:24 Poor_Yurik: Please do. If they get committed, let's do them all at once. 09:17:27 KiloByte: this is okay, as long as they're useful for some characters (which they are, in my opinion). by's point is that curare is useful for any character. That's probably even worse. 09:18:21 we could make some of the weaker brands more likely to work 09:18:41 by: depending on skill? On curare less likely? 09:19:59 ??blowgun 09:19:59 blowgun[1/3]: Blowguns shoot {needles}. In 0.6, whether or not a needle affects a monster depends on a HD, skill and enchantment check. See {blowgun[2]}. Skill and enchantment also affects the duration of effects, see {blowgun[3]}. As of 0.6, blowgun use {throwing} skill instead of {darts} skill. 09:20:06 ??blowgun[2] 09:20:07 blowgun[2/3]: You have a flat 2% chance of affecting monsters with HD14 or less. In all other cases, or if this 2% chance fails, you will only affect a monster if 2+ 1d(3 + Throwing Skill + Blowgun To-Hit) is greater than the monster's HD. 09:20:37 this is a flat formula for all brands besides poison and curare 09:20:45 by: I see. 09:20:53 All Kobolds redone (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1775) by Poor Yurik 09:21:14 we could make curare go through the same check, but vary the chance based on brand 09:21:15 it's like pain -- but pain, unlike the new needle brands, is useful even if you have just several skill points in Necromancy 09:21:45 Does missile enchantment do anything apart from anti-mulch? 09:22:00 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 09:22:13 it might cause damage, though I'm not sure 09:22:24 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:18 Ok, so I'd like to share with you guys my super secret project i've been working on the last 2 weeks :D 09:23:31 by: needles never cause damage, I thought? 09:23:34 Completely redone main dungeon branch tiles. 09:23:43 * dpeg bows to the Yurik. 09:23:51 http://www.filefront.com/16779771/dungeonrevamp_spec_lrg.png/ 09:24:15 KiloByte: how is it like pain? 09:24:38 ty dpeg. let me know what you think. 09:24:50 The torches are new? 09:24:58 yep, 4 frames of animation for them too. 09:25:00 (I am a console player :) 09:25:17 Poor_Yurik: is the new set exclusive, or can it be used together with the old tiles? 09:25:20 yeah, just something I thought would add flavor and be cool 09:25:23 exclusive 09:25:24 I'd suggest to take 2/3*HD for sleep, confusion, curare; 1/3*HD for slow, sickness, rage 09:25:30 damn, next talk 09:25:32 see you in an hour 09:25:33 for the main branch, anyway 09:25:37 though I'm not sure how powerful the brands actually are 09:25:50 k dpeg 09:26:19 pain relies on Necromancy for its damage 09:27:20 but if you hit a non-resistant monster, you always have a chance to do some damage, even with low skills 09:27:43 the needle brands are totally useless unless your throwing is very, very high 09:30:11 as in, for a random 15HD monster, you need 12 skill+ench to have a tiny non-zero chance 09:30:47 and even with 27 skill, you're near only 50% efficiency 09:31:55 yes, the formula looks funny 09:32:58 an x_chance_in_y(skill+ench, k*HD) to hit maybe? 09:33:49 sounds much better 09:38:04 03dolorous * r44f56af00583 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-stuff.cc ouch.cc): Add minor cosmetic fixes. 09:38:15 03dolorous * r2ddfa78ef915 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Mention Jiyva's corrosion protection on the "^" screen. 09:39:19 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 09:42:32 03kilobyte * rb3a47d57cf02 10/crawl-ref/source/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Make holy blades eudemon (without "blessed") again. Evil ones don't get "cacodemon", though. 09:44:40 03dolorous * raa4e31eebebe 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc fight.cc): Remove now-inaccurate comments. 09:46:22 oooo, anything special with this new "Scortch marked statue" fire cloud vault? 09:46:22 Cryp71c: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:48:29 !messages 09:48:30 (1/1) greensnark said (13h 37m 19s ago): FooTV milestone seek fixed, thanks for reporting it. 09:51:03 Giant spore kills misreported as ball lightning kills (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1776) by simon 09:56:56 03dolorous * r29f9d8b3d0fb 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Fix off-by-one errors in Jiyva piety checks. 10:06:23 03enne.walker * reb69bcc88fc9 10/crawl-ref/source/exclude.cc: [1749] Update minimap when clearing exclusions. 10:07:07 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:33 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17:04 Wow 10:17:30 Just had a fan of my old game work find me online and ask me if he could get one of my old logo's tattooed on his body. 10:24:30 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:54 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:32 78291 (L21 DSVM) ASSERT(index < SIZE) in 'fixedvector.h' at line 65 failed. (Trove) 10:30:08 !lm @78291 -tv 10:30:20 !lm @78291 -log 10:30:24 32863. 78291, XL21 DSVM, T:69392 (milestone) requested for FooTV. 10:30:24 32863. 78291, XL21 DSVM, T:69392 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/78291/crash-78291-20100617-152932.txt 10:32:56 Looks like a broken weapon or armour item 10:36:17 CAO crash when writing scores file (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1777) by greensnark 10:42:16 !lm @78291 type=crash 10:42:16 1. [2010-06-17] 78291 the Necromancer (L21 DSVM) ASSERT(index < SIZE) in 'fixedvector.h' at line 65 failed on turn 69392. (Trove) 10:43:51 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:20 Hiscores file corruption (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1778) by greensnark 10:59:52 so um 11:00:00 we are going to have dire elephants, but no regular elephants? 11:02:38