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Remove all the already implemented/definitelly won't do mutations from that list? 05:07:05 !messages 05:07:05 (1/4) Cryp71c said (13h 19m 29s ago): unarmed changes are complete in unarmed_combat, they have minimal testing for functionality, but not balance. 05:07:07 !messages 05:07:07 (1/3) Cryp71c said (13h 18m 39s ago): s/minimal testing for/been tested for/ 05:07:17 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:06 !tell Cryp71c DS wiki could be cleaned up, sure. I suggest to move implemented stuff to the very bottom, followed by the list of "won't do". I can do this next week. 05:08:06 dpeg: OK, I'll let Cryp71c know. 05:24:41 One week of work, and some FRs explode right in your face. 05:24:51 LoS: circular, square, rhombic? 05:26:32 elliptic! 05:27:04 hyperbolic! 05:27:26 try to do some math about square LoS. Like, how exploring or travel using diagonals compares to using cardinal directions. 05:27:48 exploring with diagonals is 2*1.41 times more effective 05:28:11 with current trunk, only 1.41 times 05:29:07 KiloByte: yes. I never formally suggested square LOS. It's all a big can of worms. 05:31:05 current LoS is not perfect, but the only big issue is that moving diagonally lets you get to a caster sooner 05:32:34 0.6 had shooting outside LoS which was particularly bad against immobile opponents, so by's change is an important fix 05:32:53 there is the issue that you are out of range of a hydra, say, and by running at the same speed as it you can suddenly get in range for no conceivable reason, without waiting 05:33:39 uhm, how? Except for move randomisation, which is a GOOD thing as it destroys pillar dancing. 05:33:43 and just to clarify, I never used shooting outside LOS, even though I knew about it 05:33:57 you are at a diagonal, you move diagonally, you are now straight from them 05:34:02 and you can now hit them 05:34:06 when you couldn't before 05:35:12 if you are at 1,1 and move diagonally 1,-1, you are at 2,0 which is two squares from the hydra. It moves to 1,0 and it's now your turn. 05:35:26 To take an example: you are two squares up and two left of the hydra, using a weapon of reaching. You move diagonally down-left, the hydra moves up-left, and now you can hit it 05:36:07 Butch (L3 DSWn) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed. (D:2) 05:36:53 Hydra is at (0,0), you are at (2,2). You move to (3,1), it moves to (1,1), you can now hit it. 05:36:55 casmith789: your argument would have any meaning only if you moved on the up-left - down-right axis 05:37:23 since you moved perpendicularly 05:37:56 that isn't hard to do though, especially as by running around walls etc you can nearly always maneuver this situation if you are out of range but want that one extra attack 05:38:38 this is exactly same as waiting half a turn 05:38:57 Even, it is at (0,6), you are at (6,0), you move right a lot. It comes down to the 0 rank, you can now hit it. 05:39:31 the point is you can still hit stuff that was on diagonals, it just takes more preparation 05:40:12 and what does that give you which you couldn't already get by swapping a weapon? 05:40:41 inconsistency 05:42:03 I don't see any here. It's perfectly consistent with what people are used to -- moving to the side doesn't let you go forward at the same speed. 05:42:03 -!- sorear has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:37 -!- sorear has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:35 Beforehand: You can hit something. You run away, you can still hit them at the same range. If you couldn't hit them before, you would have to let them come closer before you could hit them. 05:45:52 Afterwards: You can't hit something. You run away, you can now hit them. 05:46:46 uhm, show me _one_ case where you run away and are in range now. What you described is you sidestepping and them moving forward, which of course decreases range. 05:49:17 I've done it repeatedly 06:02:02 okay, put it in !lg rangenerf -tv 06:15:06 that shows the opposite problem; one that could be fixed by increasing move cost for diagonals 06:16:25 it's the same problem, I could do it in reverse and it would happen 06:16:33 and yes, you could 06:51:27 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:02:41 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:30 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 07:28:00 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:00 -!- Soleras has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:37 -!- Luca__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:24:45 Voker57 (L2 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed. (D:1) 08:52:37 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52:46 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:55 @whereis 08:53:04 Mm 08:53:27 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:43 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:49 @whereis 09:00:49 greensnark the Black Belt (L21 HaMo), a worshipper of Xom, quit on Elf:5 on 2010-06-12 after 85600 turns. 09:00:55 @players 09:00:55 soul (L20 @ Elf:7, T:89010), noom (L19 @ Elf:7, T:69855), ThursdayNext (L15 @ Elf:4, T:40700), Kyrris (L11 @ D:12, T:15911), iekko (L6 @ D:4, T:3132), Voker57 (L4 @ D:3, T:2674) 09:01:02 @dump 09:01:03 http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/greensnark/greensnark.txt 09:01:07 !cdo 09:01:07 soul (L20 @ Elf:7, T:89010), noom (L19 @ Elf:7, T:69855), ThursdayNext (L15 @ Elf:4, T:40700), Kyrris (L11 @ D:12, T:15911), iekko (L6 @ D:4, T:3132), Voker57 (L4 @ D:3, T:2674) 09:01:18 @??quicksilver dragon 09:01:18 quicksilver dragon (11D) | Speed: 15 | HD: 16 | Health: 48-128 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Damage: 25, 20 | Flags: sense invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(149) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 3554 | Sp: b.quicksilver (3d25). 09:01:22 @?storm dragon 09:01:22 storm dragon (12D) | Speed: 12 | HD: 14 | Health: 70-140 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Damage: 25, 15, 15 | Flags: fly | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 11elec+++ | XP: 3006 | Sp: b.lightning. 09:30:23 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:31 Morning all 09:32:28 Cryp71c: Lots of interesting crashes happening in DS games 09:32:35 !lm * type=crash 09:32:35 24. [2010-06-12] Voker57 the Grave Robber (L2 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 1385. (D:1) 09:32:40 Might want to check that out 09:32:47 And good morning :) 09:33:23 greensnark, someone was having that crash last night repeatedly...I actually looked at the code and its not something I'm familiar with / have recently changed..but I'll see if I can figure it out. 09:33:36 The crash dump may be useful 09:33:46 Hm, a command to grab the crash dump for a crash would be nice 09:39:15 ??powered by death 09:39:15 powered by death[1/3]: For each corpse in mutation_level * 3 radius when you kill an enemy (and get the PbD status), your regeneration rate is boosted by 100 (max of 700). 09:39:34 ??powered by death[2] 09:39:35 powered by death[2/3]: Duration of the status is mutation_level * 8 + 2d8 (maximum of 40 turns) 09:39:42 ??powered by death[3] 09:39:42 powered by death[3/3]: For each corpse affeced by PBD, the rot time is decreased, chance of rotting is a factor of duration left on PBD. 09:57:50 greensnark, yeah that smc crash is get_monster_data..I can't do anything without a crash dump, I can't even find the log files for any of the crash-victims... 09:58:02 So I can't correlate mutations or anything to what's happening. 10:01:19 The crash dumps should be there 10:01:20 !learn edit powered_by_death[3] s/ the rot time is decreased/ the corpse rots faster/ 10:01:20 powered by death[3/3]: For each corpse affeced by PBD, the corpse rots faster, chance of rotting is a factor of duration left on PBD. 10:01:27 Just that you need to find them manually atm 10:01:41 Based on player name and time of crash 10:01:46 !lm * type=crash x=rtime 10:01:46 24. [2010-06-12] [rtime=20100512132444S] Voker57 the Grave Robber (L2 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 1385. (D:1) 10:01:49 ah. I don't have any access to CDO, you talknig about finding them via ssh-ing in and looking around the dris? 10:01:58 No, the http directory listings 10:01:59 s/dris/directories 10:02:00 oh 10:02:00 ok 10:02:18 ??dump 10:02:19 dump[1/3]: Press # in game, then type !dump in IRC. Macro S to #S to auto-dump when saving. 10:02:23 ??dump[2] 10:02:24 dump[2/3]: To see a midgame dump that you made on the CDO server, visit http://crawl.develz.org/morgues///.txt. "Game" is one of "ancient," "hex," "stable," or "trunk." For CAO see !dump. 10:02:38 For instance look in: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Voker57/ 10:02:53 The crash is http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Voker57/crash-Voker57-20100612-132444.txt 10:04:01 Looks like the crash dump timestamp matches up with the milestone time exactly, which is handy 10:04:10 Gah, I know what it is.. 10:04:24 the reorganization of spines causes post-death-attacks by the monster. 10:05:05 wow, that's neat 10:05:09 DEAD MONSTER bites you 10:07:01 not neat, bad..very bad. 10:09:41 03Cryp71c * rbbda482e3319 10/crawl-ref/source/fight.cc: Fix mon-util.cc:1175 crashes associated with spiny 10:09:42 greensnark, fix is in trunk if you could push it over to CDO 10:09:49 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:10:27 Thanks 10:12:30 03dolorous * r96eedbcecffb 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add missing fourth (non)attack for demonic crawlers. 10:14:21 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:57 greensnark, who would I prod with a cattle iron for a !crash id=123443243 or !crash birdoprey command? 10:15:59 Napkin? 10:16:27 Me 10:16:45 03greensnark * rc48789a38398 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-grow.cc: Correct deep elf monster level-up paths. 10:16:48 03greensnark * r75ceadf8b87d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Parse ugly thing colours correctly in maps. 10:17:12 ah, lol..I'd write it for you (it seems pretty straight fowrard) but IDK how henzell even operates 10:24:46 @??red very ugly thing 10:24:46 unknown monster: "red very ugly thing" 10:24:50 Uh 10:24:58 @??very red ugly thing 10:24:58 unknown monster: "very red ugly thing" 10:25:20 Oh, I keep forgetting cdo doesn't immediately sync with SF git 10:26:04 why exactly are all the colored ugly things not separate monsters? 10:26:19 @??red very ugly thing 10:26:19 red very ugly thing (04u) | Speed: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 12 | Health: 36-96 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Damage: 1604(napalm) | Res: 06magic(48), 05fire++ | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 986. 10:26:26 @?cyan ugly thing 10:26:27 unknown monster: "cyan ugly thing" 10:26:33 @??cyan ugly thing 10:26:33 cyan ugly thing (10u) | Speed: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 8 | Health: 32-59 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Damage: 1111(elec:8-11) | Res: 06magic(32), 10elec | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 343. 10:31:08 !lm * -3 type=crash 10:31:09 22. [2010-06-12] BirdoPrey the Necromancer (L20 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 64538. (D:20) 10:31:17 !lm * -4 type=crash 10:31:18 21. [2010-06-12] BirdoPrey the Necromancer (L19 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 56166. (Vault:4) 10:31:33 !lm * -12 type=crash 10:32:05 13. evktalo the Caller (L8 HuSu), worshipper of Vehumet, on D:8 on -01-, with 0 points after 10187 turns and 0:39:19. 10:32:26 !lm * -5 type=crash 10:32:28 20. [2010-06-12] BirdoPrey the Necromancer (L19 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 56497. (Vault:4) 10:39:32 03dolorous * rac1bd33e6259 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add missing fourth (non)attack for draconian monks. 10:40:38 03dolorous * r596c447181e8 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add formatting fixes. 10:42:00 Zaba, they're all the same base monster with the same damage / res and whatnot. Except substitute in the appropriate resist and attack brand for the color . 10:42:17 browns are acid and acid resistant, etc. 10:42:55 Master branch on CDO updated to: 0.7.0-a0-2353-g75ceadf (25.3) 10:58:43 03muuuuu * rfbf15dd5c268 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/hells.des: Fix coc_mu having diggable edges. 11:03:28 03greensnark * re33677c85089 10/crawl-ref/git-hooks/crawl-ref-cia: Update crawl-ref-cia to recognise Mu. 11:09:30 03dolorous * rbd92da8ff6c6 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Add more formatting fixes. 11:09:31 03dolorous * r69f84fcbb4a0 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Add wording fix. 11:25:02 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:45:01 !lm * type=crash 11:45:01 24. [2010-06-12] Voker57 the Grave Robber (L2 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 1385. (D:1) 11:45:03 !lm * type=crash -log 11:45:03 24. Voker57, XL2 DSNe, T:1385 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Voker57/crash-Voker57-20100612-132444.txt 12:00:44 03dolorous * r995a87c047b2 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Mark sun demons as glowing, as it matches their description. 12:00:45 03dolorous * r793f48f2aa45 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Tweak the description of shining eyes. 12:03:21 03dolorous * r269e9b2da450 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-data.h mon-enum.h spells4.cc): Per Mantis 1729, differentiate between types of monster glow. 12:05:10 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:33 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 12:16:28 -!- Eronarn has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:16:33 03dolorous * r167b78f78646 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Mark ball lightnings as glowing with light. 12:21:28 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:15 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:25 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:47 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:23 -!- Eronarn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:35 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:56 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:35 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:14 morning all 13:35:35 -!- Eronarn has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:41:21 03dolorous * rc004b3905373 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Mention a monster's glowing status on its description screen. 13:46:20 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:35 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:45 03greensnark * rbc98f6a58c42 10/crawl-ref/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Free memory used for Lua chunks after compiling .des files. This considerably reduces heap use in the first Crawl process to run in a fresh install. 14:52:44 -!- Butch has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:36 hey all, i got a crash on CDO trunk, do you want any additional files from the server? (or just the usual morgue crash and ttyrec will suffice) 14:57:40 !lm * type=crash 14:57:41 24. [2010-06-12] Voker57 the Grave Robber (L2 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 1385. (D:1) 14:57:46 Hmmm 14:58:21 Butch: Please copy your save and file a bug with a link to the save and crash dump if any 14:58:29 Also, what version are you playing? 14:58:40 You seem to have not produced a crash milestone 14:58:45 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1740 14:58:47 Or Gretell isn't reporting them 14:59:10 Oh spines 14:59:17 That should be fixed if you upgrade to latest version? 14:59:32 !lm Butch type=crash 14:59:32 1. [2010-06-12] Butch the Skirmisher (L3 DSWn) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 1651. (D:2) 14:59:36 Yeah, there we go 14:59:42 greensnark, i dont know its what CDO is at 15:00:03 Butch: You can get game version with ?V or similar 15:00:05 In-game 15:00:20 And the game menu tells you the latest version, I think 15:00:33 But in any case, this bug has probably been fixed, try moving your save to the latest version 15:00:40 greensnark, :D (hey, i know that) 0.7.0-a0-2349-g5bdb1a7 15:01:38 greensnark, ok thanks 15:01:43 Butch: Yeah, I think the bug was fixed in 0.7.0-a0-2350-gbbda482 15:02:47 Crash fighting a hobgoblin as a spiny DS (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1740) by Butch 15:04:26 sorry for the BR, it was before you told me it was fixed btw 15:05:48 No worries 15:18:19 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:44 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:08 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:43 -!- stabwound has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:34:44 -!- bobo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:41 cheers 15:37:19 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:49 The ranges FR is such a mess :) 15:40:04 Everyone and their mother conducting a poll on what to do :) 15:46:18 03greensnark * r4e7b912639fc 10/crawl-ref/source/ (database.cc files.cc files.h initfile.cc maps.cc): Compile .des and database files into a versioned cache directory under the savedir so that different save-compatible Crawls can share a common savedir while having different data dirs. 15:49:38 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 15:50:40 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50:57 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:30 Napkin (L6 MfCr) (D:4) 15:56:49 !lm * type=crash -log 15:56:53 What's that Gretell message about? 15:57:00 dpeg: A crash 15:57:05 25. Napkin, XL6 MfCr, T:5908 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Napkin/crash-Napkin-20100612-205530.txt 15:57:15 Napkin (L6 MfCr) (D:4) 15:57:31 Napkin (L6 MfCr) (D:4) 15:57:49 Napkin (L6 MfCr) (D:4) 15:58:00 Now that's weird 15:58:05 Those are SIGTERMs 15:58:12 !lm * type=crash -log 15:58:35 28. Napkin, XL6 MfCr, T:5891 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Napkin/crash-Napkin-20100612-205748.txt 15:58:41 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:49 Napkin (L6 MfCr) (D:4) 15:59:08 !lm * type=crash -log 15:59:08 29. Napkin, XL6 MfCr, T:5890 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Napkin/crash-Napkin-20100612-205848.txt 15:59:29 killing myself 15:59:43 Napkin: You have 6 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:59:48 greensnark, Napkin: Good evening, sirs! 15:59:55 hi david 16:02:14 and bye o/ 16:02:16 -!- Napkin has left ##crawl-dev 16:06:23 greensnark: everything's alright? 16:06:36 Going good :) 16:06:54 Something up? 16:07:20 no no 16:07:29 just feeling being ignored :) 16:07:41 !lg * cv=0.7-a place=Snake|Shoals|Swamp s=br 16:07:43 96 games for * (cv=0.7-a place=Snake|Shoals|Swamp): 39x Shoals, 31x Snake, 26x Swamp 16:08:00 good enough for you? 16:08:04 dpeg: Players think Shoals is worse than Swamp :) 16:08:12 hehe 16:08:22 Mainly because it's harder to navigate 16:08:38 We could remove it for 0.7 :P 16:09:51 -!- Eronarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:04 greensnark: you're joking, I hope? 16:10:26 Mostly :) 16:10:28 Would they also say that Shoals is worse than old Swamp? 16:10:38 New Swamp is much easier to travel. 16:10:47 Well, not worse than old Swamp, but worse than new Swamp 16:12:25 I tried playing Torchlight recently, seems rather grindy :P 16:12:34 I have no idea what that is :) 16:12:55 Popular game that's inspired by the Diablos 16:13:12 greensnark: I always opposed to remove old Swamp, so I won't let you get away with putting off the Shoals :) 16:13:26 I never played any Diablo, but I watched a friend do it 16:13:33 It's one of those games where you have to impose iron discipline on yourself to stop farming and force yourself to have fun :P 16:14:32 Ah, so they're trying to improve the players' character and soul :) 16:14:50 is it a roguelike, or? 16:14:53 You essentially sweep through the dungeon accumulating staggering volumes of junk 16:15:01 And then you send your pet to town to sell it 16:15:10 Mu_: Randomly generated dungeons, but realtime 16:15:11 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:16 I hope you're playing on Hard 16:15:30 Niccus: Yeah, I died rather often too :P 16:15:55 But I lost interest rather quickly 16:16:20 greensnark: are there saves? 16:16:22 It's quite tough on Hard :P 16:16:27 dpeg: There's a permadeath option 16:16:50 If you don't use it you get bored Real Quick :P 16:17:38 Pretty nice graphics though 16:17:39 greensnark: this being an option means that most players will fail to use it. 16:17:44 dpeg: Yes 16:17:51 greensnark: they have a good ASCII font? 16:18:15 Fancy animations and gear and weapon graphics :P 16:18:23 The minimap is junk though 16:18:33 Pretty damn hard to make sense of it without squinting 16:18:56 there are mods to fix that 16:19:07 And pets are indestructible, at least mine was way better at surviving than I was :P 16:19:27 It's a commercial game, I presume? 16:19:42 I was the heroic warrior type and I'd set my pet to aggressive and hang back and let the bodies fall before joining :P 16:19:45 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:19:46 dpeg: Yes 16:20:11 Some of my friends really liked it and kept recommending it, so I tried it 16:20:54 "hey Darshan, you should like this new roguelike game", eh? :) 16:21:15 "This looks much more interesting than that boring text game you keep playing" is more like it :P 16:21:40 ah, those fools :) 16:21:41 One of my friends keeps calling Crawl IF :( 16:21:47 hahahaha 16:21:50 How can you not know the difference between roguelikes and IF 16:22:06 IF = text adventures, right? 16:22:11 This is so hilarious... 16:22:13 Yes, interactive fiction 16:23:49 "You win if the novel you type upon that @ sign wins the Pulitzer." 16:24:41 a roguelike where you have to fight the composition of the current screen of an IF to move on 16:25:28 "Level 3: all alliteratives allowed!" 16:43:34 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:54 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:39 -!- Butch has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:56:43 -!- Soleras has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:43 $user =~ s/^muu+$/Mu/i; 17:20:10 having to put mu's name in a regexp = ROTFLOMGWTFBBQ!!1!!elebenty-one!1!!-e^iπ 17:20:41 but, shouldn't that be ^mu+$ to catch just "mu" as well? 17:21:02 KiloByte: Yeah, just lazy 17:21:35 I pasted his email address, then wasn't sure if he was going to use variants of it, and didn't delete all unnecessary u 17:26:43 -e^iπ is a neat touch, btw 17:28:49 sorry about my name :P 17:29:35 Mu_: what's wrong with it? 17:31:48 03kilobyte * r2e7718d5fe28 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Fixedrandart: faerie dragon armour (the Enchantress only). 17:32:03 sorry i thought it sounded like my name made a problem, guess i misunderstood ;p 17:33:41 KiloByte: awesome description! 17:34:30 dpeg: the tile sucks bigtime, though, and I'm not sure about balance 17:34:39 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:53:05 greensnark: versioned db dirs are a good idea for public servers, but not really for anything else 17:53:44 KiloByte: Yes, good thought, I'll conditionalise it 17:53:54 common players will have just one version installed at a time, so they lose 3MB per upgrade 17:54:49 we devs switch between git branches often, but that changes the timestamps on db so they have to be recompiled every time anyway 17:55:27 and in our case it will be 3MB lost per commit, unless there's some garbage collection 17:55:52 what about simply defaulting to no versioning? That would be least work. 17:56:22 Yes, I'll make it dgl only 17:56:31 or that, even better 18:00:05 03dolorous * r618546a598cd 10/crawl-ref/source/art-data.txt: Fix wording. 18:00:16 Hello 18:00:44 !coffee due 18:00:45 * Henzell hands due a mug of black coffee, brewed by Sigmund. 18:00:51 Thank you. 18:02:16 would you really drink coffee brewed by sigmund? he hates living people 18:02:40 well, there's no such thing as good coffee anyway 18:02:50 I hate coffee anyway. 18:02:54 and living people deserve to be hated 18:03:17 there's so few exceptions that they don't really count 18:04:45 03greensnark * rfbf3314d000d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (AppHdr.h files.cc): Enable versioned .des cache dirs only for dgl builds (kilobyte). 18:07:00 greensnark: do you have any idea if only admins on SF can upload files, or is that a privilege uncoupled with adminship? 18:07:41 Releases can be made by anyone who's given the file release permission 18:08:02 Just !tell dpeg to give you the bit, he knows how to do it 18:09:54 well, I told him to upload 0.6.1 thrice, but he got distracted every single time 18:10:34 So 0.6.1 is officially out? 18:10:40 I don't think he's done a release himself, so asking him to upload the swag will waste time, best to ask for the file release permission 18:10:54 due: It's been tagged at least, right? 18:11:03 Ahh. 18:11:42 me and by tagged it on wednesday 18:12:00 as in, he wrote the changelog and I pressed the "tag" button 18:12:25 but then it turned out Napkin does not have the rights on SF I thought he has 18:12:27 Nice signed tag too! :P 18:12:59 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13:09 uhm, how is it nice? Exactly the same as any other version save for the number. 18:13:17 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:19 No, I mean you signed the tag 18:13:48 Most of the tags are unsigned 18:16:41 hmm, it looks only Neunon and me do that 18:17:05 There's a tag button? 18:17:45 Metaphorically speaking 18:17:50 The big red button 18:35:39 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:39:36 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:50 !lm * type=crash 18:39:51 29. Napkin the Poker (L6 MfCr), on D:4 on -01-, with 0 points after 5890 turns and 0:32:46. 18:40:15 !lm * type=crash race=ds x=time 18:40:15 13. [2010-06-12] [time=2010-06-12 [20100512132444S]] Voker57 the Grave Robber (L2 DSNe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed on turn 1385. 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