00:23:03 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:27:53 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:34 effective june 30, 2010 $LOCAL_MONOPOLY_ISP is dropping USENET 00:41:36 bye bye RGRM 00:45:31 sorear: :( 00:45:43 They don't have it here. It's terrible. 00:46:10 usenet is still accessable through google groups. 00:46:11 the japanese don't have something? 00:46:36 and ofcause, theres usenet providers, both free and subscription-based. 00:48:08 Well. This ISP that's been forced on me doesn't provide free access. 00:50:47 night all 00:51:18 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 00:52:56 sorear: Optimum online provides free access. 00:54:10 Obviously it's supporting violent pedophiliac's attacks on children. But that's just the sort of place Connecticut is. 00:58:03 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:58:08 mischan? 01:02:44 sorear: ? 01:16:16 this line has nothing to do with the surroundings and I suspect it was misdirected: 22:54 < ixtli> Obviously it's supporting violent pedophiliac's attacks on children. But that's just the sort of place Connecticut is. 01:16:41 sorear: No, i was referring to providing usenet access. 01:17:30 IIRC protecting the children was cited as justification for some big name ISP pulling usenet service. 01:28:23 felirx: You around? 01:37:00 -!- stabwound has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37:17 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:11 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:47 -!- paxed has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:29:33 -!- paxed has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:00 Anyone else having an issue with tool/tilegen.elf not linking? 03:41:56 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:04:47 ixtli: make clean or distclean first 04:05:03 due: it's a fresh git pull and submodule update --init 04:05:13 Hum. 04:05:16 make TILES=y 04:05:58 the thing is, the contrib/install dir is getting populated properly 04:06:06 and nm says the missing symbols are in the .a files 04:07:05 I looked over the make file but got stuck at pkg-config because I don't really know how it's supposed to work :( 04:07:13 Have you changed anything? 04:07:16 Nope. 04:07:23 I can redo the whole thing if you want. 04:07:26 Builds pretty fast here. 04:07:26 ccache? 04:07:28 No, don't 04:07:35 sorry, ccache? 04:07:41 No then 04:07:48 heh :) 04:08:33 I'm havnig no problems with it. 04:08:36 weird 04:08:44 git pull && cd rltiles && make 04:08:46 i removed SDL and SDL_image from macports 04:08:56 just to make sure 04:09:02 but it didn't change anything 04:09:20 Try going into the rltiles directory and dtyping make?; 04:09:25 I'd be interesting to see why it's failing. 04:09:45 ugh 04:09:54 make: *** No rule to make target `/opt/local/include/libpng12/png.h', needed by `tool/tile_colour.o'. Stop. 04:09:57 it's macports 04:10:10 :) 04:10:12 combined with the fact that Tiles has < > litered around 04:10:18 where it should have " " 04:10:30 that shouldn't be happening, though. 04:10:31 fix and upload patch, plz ;) 04:10:35 will do 04:10:36 :) 04:10:57 Oh. Due, while I'm doing that can you do me a favour. 04:11:07 sure 04:11:24 make debug TILES=y && gdb ./crawl 04:11:41 I'll be a half hour ): 04:11:52 heh no prob then 04:12:36 due: suffice it to say http://pastebin.com/gMYYcYUw 04:12:43 line 41 04:12:49 i don't think this is something I did. 04:12:56 but it's causing some new code I wrote to barf. 04:13:43 * due whimpers 04:14:10 * due hides under a rock instead? 04:16:55 hahaha 04:17:10 I'll find it if .. you know.. i could compare to a clean build 04:17:37 due: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YqTys2XS 04:17:56 What's the proper way to clean the contribs dir 04:17:56 ? 04:18:10 can I just make clean in the SDL directory? 04:20:43 due: Actually just look at this. This is what I'm getting after removing everything from macports 04:20:44 http://pastebin.com/3hgDPsNy 04:28:15 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:31 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:37:44 Bah 04:37:47 had to ran, back in ten 04:44:41 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:38 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:28 ixtli: I'm now 05:22:12 felirx: do you have TILES binary with debug symbols? 05:23:18 what for? 05:23:28 felirx: I'm having issues building master and was wondering if you could just check something in GDB for me 05:23:54 felrix: http://pastebin.com/gMYYcYUw 05:23:56 line 41 05:24:10 I don't think this is something I did. All i did was break on that function and run crawl 05:24:16 then i printed out the offending struct 05:24:25 er sorry class 05:25:53 felirx: It's no big deal if you don't. Don't bother building from scratch if it's gonna take an hour. 05:28:01 it takes me 1min 30s 05:37:59 sweet. 05:38:05 lemme know what you find. 05:38:38 I've no clue what I sholud be looking for 05:41:18 felirx: pm so as not to flood chat 05:44:31 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:38 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:50 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:01:45 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:10:35 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:13:09 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:37 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:26:37 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:16 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:13 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:45:59 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:57 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 06:57:01 -!- rax has quit [*.net *.split] 06:57:01 -!- sorear has quit [*.net *.split] 07:03:48 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:48 -!- sorear has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:15 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:43 -!- Muu has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:25 -!- Mu_ has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:44:34 -!- Muu is now known as Mu_ 09:01:25 -!- sorear has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:02:21 -!- sorear has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:20:50 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:57 -!- sorear has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23:25 -!- sorear has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:54 Moooo 09:37:27 hm 09:39:07 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:36:34 Cryp71c: Do you know if you can lose your DG in the Abyss? I haven't seen mine since I went to get the abyssal rune. 10:38:13 Keskitalo, it can wander off, yes. 10:38:25 Keskitalo, its not intentional, but its normal companion behavior 10:41:35 Yeah, but could it get stuck there? 10:42:30 I've been trying to turn the ability on and off. 10:43:34 !lm Keskitalo type=abyss.exit 10:43:37 20. [2010-04-20] evktalo the Hellbinder (L26 DSSu) escaped from the Abyss! 10:43:42 !lm Keskitalo type=abyss.exit x=turn 10:43:42 20. [2010-04-20] [turn=174560] evktalo the Hellbinder (L26 DSSu) escaped from the Abyss! 10:43:46 !lm Keskitalo x=turn 10:43:47 1034. [2010-04-20] [turn=174733] evktalo the Hellbinder (L26 DSSu) found an iron rune of Zot on turn 174733. (Dis:7) 10:44:19 I got the abyssal rune a bit earlier.. 10:48:36 !lm type=rune place=Abyss 10:48:36 2. [2010-04-19] evktalo the Demonologist (L22 DSSu) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 139919. (Abyss) 10:59:05 Keskitalo, no it shouldnt be able to get stuck there. as soon as you exit the abyss, if its still alive it will auto-move with you. 10:59:16 though it could've died while it was chasing something. 11:08:34 Yup, that's what I thought too. Just haven't seen it for 30000+ turns.. :) 11:19:41 -!- ortoslon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:14 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:42:11 -!- stabwound has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:42:12 -!- stabwound- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:26 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:19 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:26 Keskitalo, BR that, should've come back by now 13:27:17 -!- Barak has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:49 -!- Smee has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:24 -!- Smee has quit [Client Quit] 13:36:22 Hi there, I'm Barak. I'm interested in a portable version of Stone soup, specifically for the DS. I realise there already is one, but it's on an older version of stone soup. What i was wondering would anyone, who has greater skills than i be working on/be interested in working on a more up to date port of Stone Soup 13:37:49 Hi Barak. ixtli is working on a iPad port, but I haven't heard of a more recent DS porting attempt. 13:38:23 Cryp71c: Ok, I'll make a BR later. In the middle of upgrading Ubuntu right now.. 13:39:43 I heard about the iPad port over on ##crawl. And as cool as that is, i'm a student. I can't afford one, i do however have a DS, which is why i was interested in the port for it in the first place 13:41:28 That does sound fun, I have a DS too, though I don't have a homebrew kit if that was what they're called. :) 13:43:02 Was the earlier port a tiles port tw? 13:43:42 btw i mean 13:44:25 -!- shockwave_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:49 From the screenshot Keskitalo, it doesn't appear to be 13:51:06 I'm just getting an emulator so that i can try it out. I'm currently researching homebrew methods for my DS 13:51:26 2 years ago, I would've said "get an R4" 13:51:33 these days, i'm not sure what the best method is 13:52:06 I think R4 is still what a lot of people do, and i am considering getting one. 13:52:19 is it a DS or a DSi? the latter has less methods that work iirc 13:56:21 Mine is a DSlite 13:56:37 lite is fine 13:57:28 Fair enough 14:12:48 Well, if anyone hears anything about a port of an up-to-date version of stone soup to DS, i'd like to hear about it. If i'm online, i'm usually on ##crawl. If anyone hears about such a thing it would be appreciated if you could give me a heads up 14:13:05 Barak: There would definitely be demand for a DS port. It is unlikely to happen, but if it does, you will almost certainly hear about it 14:13:17 cool, thanks 14:13:20 -!- Barak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:15:47 Wait... the source code for the DS version is available. Why *haven't* we done one? 14:20:44 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25:55 It looks like this guy really already did the majoirty of the hard work 14:27:38 The mummy crypt5 ending was a lot more fun than this two liches in cages one ;( 14:31:48 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:23 -!- Anym has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:35 Most branches rely on vaults for rune placement, right? I.e. if I removed the .des files, a randomly generated branch end won't necessarily have a rune, right? 14:48:17 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:00 Anym: I think that's the case. 14:50:10 -!- shockwave_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100315083431]] 14:50:46 OK, thanks. I was just looking for confirmation. 14:50:54 the game won't even run if you do that 14:52:40 you can probably delete \variable 14:52:45 Yeah, but only because of the easily disabled Lua sanity checks, right? 14:53:09 probably, though I imagine you'd also want to keep zot.des 14:53:27 I'll experiment a bit. 14:53:53 Maybe I'll just make a couple of 1x1 vaults containing only the runes/orb. 14:54:21 Just wanted to make sure that the runes really weren't generated. 15:35:46 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:09:00 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:46 Game closes instantly on player death (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1391) by pixnaps 16:38:52 -!- Anym has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 17:09:09 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:28:30 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:08 morning all 17:30:09 hey 17:34:38 ...wait, Textmode... 17:35:24 hmm? 17:35:49 I just hilighted you on another network 17:35:56 on which I was surprised to see you 17:38:12 which network? 17:38:31 oh hey, I see you! ^_^ 17:39:11 * Textmode sings 'Its a small world after all' 17:39:18 yes :P 17:41:14 I'm also on whatnet 17:41:21 thats...pretty much the set. 18:27:27 03burnhamrobertp * rd21b85d4e255 10/crawl-ref/source/ (item_use.cc player.cc): Mantis issue 243. 18:33:18 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:13 Eronarn: 'DSCrawl' predates the stash tracker 18:56:27 Crawl's memory usage has increased from 100k to 50M per game since then 18:56:35 how much RAM does the DS have? 18:57:20 eh, 30M or so 19:03:01 4M on a DS Lite apparently o_O 19:03:22 16M on a DSi 19:06:29 disable stash tracker and go! 19:06:41 It would be annoying to find anything though ;) 19:08:34 i don't think stash tracker is disablable anymore 19:09:20 is it used on more than just the ^F related stuff? 19:09:45 troves use it, at least 19:11:37 DSCK initial stats aren't very warrior-like (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1392) by pixnaps 19:12:15 Morning 19:20:45 what about storing it on the flashcard instead of memory, if it's only used there + troves 19:22:36 could just stick in an sqlite db somewhere 19:22:43 could do that for the main version too 19:32:42 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:42 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:50:16 we could probably trim quite a bit off Crawl's memory footprint 19:50:36 but ... nobody ever bothers because RAM is cheap 19:50:49 i'm quite surprised by how little a DS has, honestly 19:50:53 if you're porting to a platform where it isn't, you need to do all the catchup yourself 19:51:13 4MB is quite a lot by gameboy standards 19:51:23 I beleive the GBA had 128k 19:53:43 pretty bad compared to the PSP though (32/64) but i guess it's also cheaper isn't it 20:00:16 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:11 -!- stabwound- has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:23:15 -!- Smee has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:29 -!- Smee has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:59:41 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:14:45 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:42 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: Enne] 21:42:47 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:08:04 Why does Aizul have a chunks field 22:46:28 03dolorous * re6737585092b 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/FAQ.txt: Remove hard line wrapping. 22:46:29 03dolorous * r24e4ad85cdbb 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/FAQ.txt: Remove trailing whitespace. 23:00:04 -!- elly is now known as elly|silent 23:34:40 !tell Keskitalo Once my changes for the iPad port are committed it should be very straightforward to port to the DS 23:34:41 ixtli: OK, I'll let Keskitalo know. 23:35:01 !tell Keskitalo also I may write a wiki page on 'porting to weird platforms' :) 23:35:01 ixtli: OK, I'll let Keskitalo know. 23:35:04 except for that memory issue 23:35:05 (: 23:35:18 doy: I made sure to qualify that in my ##crawl message 23:35:31 "assuming it has enough memory to handle stashes" 23:35:34 (: 23:35:38 :D 23:36:37 i think moving the stash to an on-disk file might be a decent idea 23:36:38 I agree with moving it out to 'disk' 23:36:42 wherever that is. 23:36:45 doy: :) 23:36:59 Also I have a lot of optimizations in mind once I'm done with my ipad thingy. 23:46:40 ixtli: if there's any way to help with the DS stuff from a not-good-coder perspective, i'd put in some time 23:46:50 i'm looking at getting a DS, and a friend of mine has one + loves crawl 23:47:08 I think there would be a lot of people who'd like to play it. 23:47:20 Can you believe I'm in Japan and STILL cant find an R4 card? 23:47:23 It's insanity. 23:54:37 i want a ds lite 23:54:42 but i don't want to spend more than $60 23:54:43 :( 23:58:29 ...edit: would've just won one if i didn't get logged out of ebay when firefox crashed