00:26:46 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27:09 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:00 make sure to email it in! :P aprilfools@techcrunch.com 00:46:13 -!- Iainuki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:47 -!- Iainuki has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:33 -!- myuzinn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:49 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:20:33 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:08 Background chooser description problems (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1232) by MrMisterMonkey 01:33:10 Escape no longer breaks out of [Y]/[N] prompts, as it used to. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1233) by Kyrris 02:01:15 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:24 -!- by has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:10:25 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:24 -!- Vandal has quit [] 02:22:17 -!- sorear has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:26:36 !seen cryptic 02:26:37 I last saw Cryptic at Wed Mar 31 14:30:40 2010 UTC (16h 55m 57s ago) saying lol on ##crawl-dev. 02:26:57 !tell cryptic #1230 is yours 02:26:57 by: OK, I'll let cryptic know. 02:27:17 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:22 !seen due 02:27:22 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 02:27:22 I last saw due at Thu Apr 1 04:31:25 2010 UTC (2h 55m 57s ago) saying Training, back later. on ##crawl-dev. 02:27:44 !tell due I am completely immune to April fool jokes, but your mail had me snicker. :) 02:27:44 dpeg: OK, I'll let due know. 02:28:08 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:31:26 !messages 02:31:26 (1/2) Cryp71c said (9h 29m 51s ago): What's dolorous' email address? 02:31:32 !messages 02:31:32 (1/1) paxed said (3h 31m 32s ago): at 1 in the thursday morning? no, i'm not around. 02:31:41 paxed: Hi! 02:31:56 "I'm having trouble with early casters too, actually. I think when they nerfed AC and EV, they nerfed EV a little bit too hard. " lol 02:31:58 moin David 02:32:03 Hallo 02:32:08 purge: nerfed EV? 02:32:13 no more april fool jokes, pleeeeease! 02:32:24 from the bay12games forum no joke! 02:32:25 Napkin: but Jude's post is funny. 02:32:32 crd? 02:32:37 yes 02:32:41 on it :D 02:32:56 * by can't stand april fools 02:33:20 i already had "secret block-hole detectors", "1 cent per email tax", "ipv6 tonight".. 02:33:29 april fools is for the same people that value political correctness 02:34:00 by: I agree. 02:34:05 But Jude's post still was funny. 02:34:12 didn't read it 02:34:20 paxed needs an 24x7 support hotline :) 02:35:28 would mantis allow elevating patchers to a status where they can be assigned bugs? 02:35:39 Napkin: so I shouldn't post my "me, paxed and derek joining the crawl devteam" posting on rgrn? 02:35:52 ich bin blind - sehe die email nicht, david 02:36:01 man, people on those forums are brutal in their tiles bashing :( 02:36:08 Napkin: ich habe sie gerade gelöscht :O 02:36:19 Napkin: sie ging auch nur ans devteam -- wegen Witz und so! 02:36:25 grrr :-P 02:36:29 purge: don't listen to them 02:36:36 They're stupid. 02:36:37 Napkin: you can expect a blog post later I think 02:37:01 rob - we could allow people in the "updaters" group to have issues assigned 02:37:14 nooooooooo! no more! have mercy! ;)) 02:37:36 purge, tiles is absolutely awesome! :) 02:37:38 april's fools is for those people who like to try to be funny once a year :) 02:37:41 *are 02:38:08 rgrd has april fool jokes :( 02:38:51 !tell due Thumbs up, love the facebook tab :) 02:38:52 Keskitalo: OK, I'll let due know. 02:38:52 Yeah, I probably should not have put the :(, I actually am entertained by the "trolling" 02:38:54 My humour is completely different, more like Heizölrückstoßamdämpfung. 02:38:58 Crrruel but silly enough. 02:39:06 Keskitalo: Hi! 02:39:10 Hi dpeg! 02:39:23 Keskitalo: I got Erik to add his ideas on Vp and Ha to the wiki. Would you have a look sometime? 02:39:30 moin eino! 02:39:32 although the posting rdrd "Let's just get this over with..." summarizes it nicely :) 02:39:32 by: and I added your GDR idea to the 0.7 plan. 02:39:38 bhaak: yes 02:39:44 Heyah Napking :) 02:40:09 if you read backlog, originally due's idea was to announce the release of a server compatible tiles client 02:40:16 but greensnark thought it was too curle 02:40:19 cruel* 02:40:33 nah, cruel is good 02:40:43 I have to say that Ido's approach is at least double-edged. 02:41:13 Keskitalord :D 02:41:16 dpeg: I'll check them. Great about adding the GDR bit to the plan! I'm clueless about AC inner workings, but it's good to see proposals. I like that it would address the early armour-user problems. 02:41:29 Napkin: ulgh! :D 02:41:36 hehe 02:42:10 dpeg: the parts about *bands and the crawl devteam are actually hilarious :) 02:43:02 bhaak: I like the bit about "Kornel armed to the teeth". 02:43:40 He always is, 02:43:48 dpeg: that's just reality :) 02:45:37 Awesome 02:45:42 * dpeg admires Kornel even more. 02:47:46 hmm? would your opinion of me be different if you knew that I have a sturmgewehr under my bed and I KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT! ? 02:48:59 bhaak: well, you're a Swiss -- you *have* to :) 02:49:15 * dpeg also likes the word Sturmgewehr. 02:49:15 dpeg: Erik's halfling ideas gave me this one: Bravery: stat boosts during high tensions. 02:49:24 Keskitalo: but I need this for a god :O 02:49:50 Could be both 02:49:52 ? :) 02:49:55 sure 02:50:08 Am I the only one who's unhappy with getting more than one DS mutation per level? 02:51:14 always does racist prejudices. Swiss like cheese and chocolate, have a weapon at home and always carry their swiss army knifes with them ... ok, most of those are true, but still ... :-) 02:51:52 I'm unhappy how a lot of playstyles are closed off from the endgame areas that have lot of demons: corpse-users, vampires, Fedhasites, what not.. it feels.. binary. 02:52:11 kiku 02:52:19 for corpse users 02:52:21 and vampires 02:52:24 Kiku is great in that sense, yeah. 02:53:43 bhaak: I don't care whether the Swiss eat their cheese and chocolate as long as they keep producing it. 02:53:47 I was wondering if "half-demonic" creatures such as hell hounds couldn't be given blood and corpses. They shouldn't be common in the places, but perhaps make it a little easier to venture in those places. 02:54:31 Another thing I've thought was additional hells, which were designed to be accessible to other playstyles than those that currently dominate the endgame, while of course still being hard for everyone. 02:55:22 I'll admit I have little endgame experience. I think I still haven't ever collected Cocytus, Dis and a some of the Pan runes. :) 02:55:32 -!- by has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:56:53 Keskitalo: I think it's completely okay if some species/styles have more trouble in hells or Pan than others. 02:56:58 And there's always Kiku. 02:57:23 dpeg: Absolutely. But more variety in Hells would surely be good? :) 02:57:56 Especially if we can make e.g. Hells that are good for corpse-raisers difficult for TSO-worshippers. 02:59:42 For instance, I had this idea that kenku were created by demons, but not demonic in themselves. We could have a Hell branch with titans and kenku, and since no inhabitant in that Hell was actually Evil, paladins would have a harder time. 03:00:23 Keskitalo: I proposed a holy Pan level. 03:00:38 Yes, that's exactly the sort of thing I mean. :) 03:00:55 Keskitalo: i would much rather see more stuff that is endgame and isn't undead/demons :) 03:01:22 More distinct pan levels would be great too - I imagine you'd try to "dive" to get a type of Pan level that you can handle. 03:01:28 Eronarn: That is exactly what I am talking about. 03:01:38 it's a common request 03:02:02 the over-concentration of runes in those areas really does hurt 03:02:04 Keskitalo: you mean more distinct among the random Pan levels? 03:02:46 Eronarn: But I don't see a way of replacing Pan/Hells, so we could simply work within that framework. 03:03:13 dpeg: Yeah, to have several "types", a holy type being an example. 03:03:26 Keskitalo: yes, sounds good 03:03:41 Eronarn has a wiki page that gave me the idea. 03:03:56 Keskitalo: radical idea: there is one rune for hell, it's in a random hell, some mechanic that lets you get a hint which one for a cost, no hints otherwise until after that hell's boss is dead 03:04:10 I'm having trouble with early casters too, actually. I think when they nerfed AC and EV, they nerfed EV a little bit too hard. 03:04:13 um 03:04:31 Gotta love the clueless posts. <3 03:04:54 also, which wiki page of mine? the demon interestingification one, or? 03:04:58 Eronarn: Sounds aggravating. 03:05:20 'good, it's hell' 03:05:38 Eronarn: That probably, the one which defined sets of demons/inhabitants for Hells and Pan level types. 03:05:44 yeah, that's the one 03:06:07 i didn't extend it to holy creatures, because the holy creatures proposed are already so robust + have the gods to help naturally provide some of that order 03:06:52 imo design in DCSS has advanced immensely to the point where some content that's gone untouched for a while really feels old 03:07:05 I believe that getting no rune for clearing a Hell is needlessly unfuriating. 03:07:10 This would be more a Pan idea. 03:07:14 haha, also: "Slain by a program bug ... wielding an indirect mummy curse (25 damage)" 03:07:25 doy: where from? 03:07:34 dpeg: bay12games forum 03:07:46 odd, i would've guessed Tomb 03:08:03 that's funny 03:09:02 'And I know some other people have used Internet Explorer to telnet into the game and play, or so they told me.' 03:09:05 woah 03:09:37 yeah, ie can open telnet:// links 03:09:43 i'm not sure what it opens them with though 03:10:04 my guess would be the windows command prompt, which is pretty terrible 03:10:09 but never actually tried it 03:12:28 no, as unbelievable as it sounds, it actually opens the telnet client shipped with windows 03:12:41 windows ships with a separate telnet client? 03:12:43 i think it's not installed by default on win7 03:12:48 maybe not on vista either 03:13:01 i thought the telnet client was a command line program that runs in the command prompt 03:13:28 hmm, or I thought it did. with IE7 it doesn't work 03:14:09 firefox lets you choose to run it with "rundll32.exe url.dll, TelnetProtocolHandler %s" 03:14:13 dpeg: I'll wikify my Hell ideas some of these days. :) 03:14:20 Keskitalo: yay 03:14:37 i will be quite happy if .8 has a big hell/demons revamp 03:14:39 Keskitalo: I need to write up my "get rid of Inv" ideas. 03:14:45 invisibility? 03:14:48 Invocations 03:14:58 oh, interesting 03:16:14 dpeg: 'lo 03:17:19 dpeg: I've been thinking about it a bit, and I still like how you need to spend XP to get good with your god (for most gods). Resetting the skill upon abandonment (unless you switch from a good god to another) might help a lot, along with tweaking the god powers so that training Inv becomes more natural. 03:17:44 I like my Makhleb idea. :] (switching the order you get Power from killing and Minor destruction) 03:18:22 paxed: Hi! I've heard you read the leaves and saw a NH 3.5? 03:18:46 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 03:19:35 dpeg: not really. i think i said next version will be 3.5 (rather than 3.4.4), and at least one of the beta team members hasn't been very active on irc. (but then, he's not very active in any case...) 03:19:53 dpeg: but i have no concrete evidence either way. 03:20:34 and I said that pat rankin was surprisingly active at the beginning of the year 03:20:51 beta team members? 03:21:40 I am writing up a text about open source and open development for roguelikes. (This is for the 2010 RL meeting, so it's not urgent.) Once I am done, I'll send it to some developers whose games are mentioned. 03:21:48 ooh. 03:21:50 doy: a team who gets the nethack beta version. 03:21:56 what length? article, book chapter? 03:21:59 This will include Pat R and Thomas B but I don't expect much. 03:22:02 paxed: that actually exists? 03:22:02 Eronarn: article 03:22:04 no books :) 03:22:17 doy: hey, Crawl even has a gamma team! We call it "players". 03:22:28 atm, I wouldn't go and set any money in wikihack's next version pool :) 03:22:31 dpeg: just pat rankin? wouldn't it be better to send it to whole devteam :P 03:22:43 paxed: Pat seems the only one able to communicate 03:23:04 -!- xardas-3 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:06 dpeg: others do, occasionally. pat is the one who "hangs out" in rgrn. 03:23:22 bhaak: Derek interpreted Pat's activity (on rgrn, say) as an indication of resignation :) 03:23:35 sending it to devteam@nethack.org would certainly be better 03:23:42 paxed: If I send it to all of them, I reduce chances to get any type of feedback. 03:24:07 This is like asking "Is this is good idea?" on the Crawl mailing list -- no response. If I ask a single person, I'll get a response. 03:24:20 dpeg: the activity at the beginning of the year was including answering bugs I sent to the devteam 03:24:26 wow 03:25:11 although one about a simple doc fix I sent didn't get a answer whereas my '"truely" and "dr dolittle" is spelled wrong' did get one long time ago 03:26:08 had bug reports been getting ignored earlier? 03:26:29 i got responses to all of mine that i submitted back in 08 or so 03:26:54 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:56 then you are an excpetion :) 03:27:32 how does nethack compare to crawl in terms of LOC? 03:28:13 morning all 03:28:16 small display bug: on race selection screen, when chosing draconian, the description is cut: "Draconians are versatile hybrids. They mature when reaching level 7 and" (no continuation on next line) - linux terminal, 78x24 03:28:25 xardas-3: yes, we know 03:28:34 xardas-3: descriptions were only added yesterday 03:29:11 we really don't support less than 80x24 03:29:19 is there a reason you're using 78x24? 03:29:25 by: excluding submodules in crawl and window ports in nethack, it's about 220'000 LOC for crawl vs 110'000 for nethack measured with sloccount 03:29:33 doy: it's also cut with 80 columns :) 03:29:37 bhaak: thanks! 03:29:56 that's not too far from the ratio I'd have guessed 03:29:59 dpeg: ah... but still 03:30:00 (: 03:30:28 why don't you just give the background description more space? 03:30:30 by: I am a bit surprised. 03:30:37 by: not enough lines, I thought. 03:30:45 no, sorry, my terminal resized for unknown reason, its 80x24 03:30:48 me too. I don't what you do to get so many LOC :) 03:30:54 dpeg: look at the screen, there's tons of space, no? 03:30:55 *know 03:30:57 bhaak: we have a good game :P 03:31:03 by: will do later 03:31:18 by: Johanna will do wrapping today, I guess. 03:31:26 It's slightly special because of indentation. 03:32:02 Would be interesting to compare NH 3.4 and DC 4b26 with SLOC. 03:32:11 That was the common starting point. 03:32:16 dpeg: you know that SO does not relate to LOC :-) 03:32:21 is 4b26 in git? 03:32:27 no 03:32:42 the initial stone soup commits are more or less 4b26 03:32:50 bhaak: more megabytes of code ==> more fun 03:32:55 by: true 03:33:42 the earliest log I have is Thu Jul 21 02:34:44 2005 by peter12 03:33:51 That's a good one. 03:33:57 Before any DCSS activities. 03:35:59 LOC: 103479 03:36:13 We have doubled the size of the game... oh my. 03:37:33 http://www.ohloh.net/p/stonesoup/analyses/latest has a nice graph 03:37:40 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 03:37:53 oh, i was just going to ask about that 03:37:54 (: 03:38:18 what happened last fall? 03:38:37 contrib moved out of source tree? 03:38:52 Hello 03:38:52 due: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 03:38:55 !messages 03:38:55 (1/2) dpeg said (1h 11m 11s ago): I am completely immune to April fool jokes, but your mail had me snicker. :) 03:38:58 !messages 03:38:58 (1/1) Keskitalo said (1h 7s ago): Thumbs up, love the facebook tab :) 03:39:03 by: where are the des files in that list? 03:39:06 Okay, I'll post it now then. :D 03:39:11 Any other comments/ 03:39:21 dpeg: don't know 03:39:28 dpeg: nowhere, they aren't recognized as code 03:40:02 bhaak: but they're content 03:40:26 dpeg: yes, but not code. it's "code analysis" :) 03:40:43 bhaak: well, they used to be hardcoded. 03:40:55 So moving content into des is good, but the tracker won't see it. 03:40:58 dpeg: in .h or .cc files? 03:41:23 by: Did you get my email? 03:41:24 all the .des content used to be in maps.cc 03:41:25 bhaak: it was coded in .cc 03:41:31 dpeg: No comments before I do it? 03:41:39 due: nope, just go ahead 03:41:42 interesting design decision :) 03:41:49 Keskitalo is too afraid to enter a labyrinth :P 03:41:55 bhaak: what? 03:41:57 due: didn't read the april fools one, if that's what you mean 03:42:06 i don't know if there was more of a "design" "decision" involved there 03:42:07 (: 03:42:08 by: Ah, I'm just about to post it :) 03:42:13 dpeg: des in cc 03:42:20 s/more of// 03:42:26 bhaak: it was vaults in .cc 03:42:42 bhaak: All the vaults were hard-coded. 03:42:43 bhaak: the level compiler itself is new to stone soup 03:43:15 ah, interesting that he didn't copy that from nh 03:43:32 although I understand if somebody doesn't want to mess with lex and yacc 03:44:17 Who wrote the level compiler? 03:44:20 Darshan? 03:44:24 generated code in C feels dirty to me :) although I happily use it in other languages 03:44:25 yeah 03:44:35 i think anyway 03:44:52 doy: Any comments on the post before I mmake it? 03:45:44 On a long weekend’s Crawl-hacking, I came upon the monstrosity that was b26’s maps.cc. All the special levels in Crawl were scrunched up in maps.cc, each in a function, described as arrays of string constants, a perfectly horrific mess to edit. I’d seen how NetHack handled special levels, with a special .des file format and a compiler that translated those into maps that the game could use, 03:45:50 so I tried my hand at implementing something similar for Crawl. I was handicapped by not knowing anything about lex and yacc, but eventually I beat them into submission and Crawl’s level compiler was born. I liked the existing vaults and special levels and wanted more, but after a few pathetic attempts at creating new levels, I gave up and asked the team if they would like to try. Happily David 03:45:56 and Erik were good at the vault-design thing. :-) 03:46:31 who was that? 03:46:39 Oh, Darshan. 03:46:39 gosh damn it, Blizzard had NOT better be April fooling giving me a beta access to starcraft 2 beta :| 03:46:48 installing.... 03:47:25 heh, new whine comment on 0.6-release-post 03:49:42 my impression is that sigmund is a wuss :) did you make him easier? 03:50:13 he isn't as dangerous to me as his reputation suggests 03:50:39 what level did you find him on? 03:51:43 dunno, last time I ran away because it was on dlvl 2, but usually I don't pay attention to the dlvl and just kill him :) 03:52:30 hes a wuss yet you ran away? :) 03:52:33 bhaak: what character? 03:52:54 purge: that was just once 03:53:10 Textmode: MDBe 03:53:42 If you have berserk it makes most names trivial 03:53:58 my spriggans rarely found him all that threatening, forinstance, since they moved fast enough to get the drop on him, and his invisibility was useless 03:54:56 likewise, any of my characters that had evap or mephetic tended not to worry about him :P 03:55:26 yeah, a well-timed berzerk can usually do in a lot of otherwise tough creatures. 03:57:26 hmm, the bots don't report if the player kills a name berzerk or not 03:57:36 bhaak: I want it to. 04:06:00 Published. 04:06:20 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/tiles-server :) 04:07:15 you're just cruel :) 04:08:01 I'm a wicked, wicked man. 04:08:33 due: announce in ##crawl? 04:08:46 purge: In a moment 04:09:03 eh, more fun to let them find out themselves 04:09:04 (: 04:09:13 Maybe, too. 04:09:17 you need an RSS-plugin for one of the bots :) 04:09:36 Should I just copy and paste for the mailing list? 04:09:46 yeah announce might actually make it look set up 04:09:49 especially from a dev :P 04:09:56 True 04:10:00 Actually, I won't post to c-r-d 04:10:15 i'd say just leave it for a bit, see if people notice 04:10:20 Yeah, exactly 04:21:02 Hm, no reaction :) 04:22:42 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:53 mu <3 04:23:06 Hail, well met. 04:25:07 wooo i am in starcraft 2 beta it wasn't april fools :D 04:37:29 purge: thats what you think 04:40:52 Textmode: Hey. 04:42:59 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:53 heya ixtli, whats up? 04:46:15 Not much. Closer to getting my wrapper committed to master. 04:46:21 Hows your port attempt going? 04:53:10 -!- purge_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:55:21 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:10:36 purge are you enjoying starcraft 1 in 3d 05:10:43 :3 05:11:27 I'm glad DF 2010 release wasn't an april fool 05:11:48 who cares about starcraft 05:13:04 I never played starcraft when it first came out, tried it first time a few months ago 05:13:10 I really couldn't see what the big deal was 05:14:27 handling of missiles of flame/ice is a little broken (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1234) by rob 05:14:45 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:20:18 myuzinn: Starcraft's alright. 05:20:35 * Madtrixr sucks at SC and he thinks it's alright. 05:20:46 eeh 05:20:59 I used to play warcraft 2 a lot as a kid, but grew tired of rts as I grew up for whatever reason 05:21:24 And about it's popularity, it's not in our hands... 05:21:31 * Madtrixr points at SK 05:21:37 it's pretty much in theirs. 05:21:40 I'm tempted to say "it's just nostalgia" but yeh s.korea 05:21:44 ##crawl-offtopic? 05:21:48 ok ok :p 05:22:05 Yea yea. 05:22:25 Conversations pretty much done anyways. 05:24:11 hmm 05:24:21 i just drank a pot of mutation in 0.7 05:24:27 only one of the three mutations stuck 05:24:37 you likely had two that cancelled out 05:24:38 normal? 05:24:41 nope 05:24:43 You feel yourself wasting away. You feel hot for a moment. You feel healthier. 05:24:49 only rC stuck 05:24:56 yes that is strange 05:25:06 unless you're a jiyvite or some such 05:25:11 nope 05:25:11 no god 05:25:13 DS though 05:25:16 might be realted 05:25:18 ah 05:29:02 I was testing my drawing methods and got a crash related to an ASSERT() in mon-util.cc here: http://sprunge.us/hgUY 05:29:13 Dunno what to make of it, really. 05:29:46 probably #1224 05:30:33 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:32:11 by: Probably. 05:34:53 Xiberia: I'm just guessing, but corresponding DS mutations (or the possiblity of them) might cancel the other two. I do suppose you should be getting something else then, not duds. 05:37:58 Keskitalo, what could cancel out wasting away though? 05:38:05 and poison resistance has no DS counterpart right now 05:38:07 afaik 05:38:22 03by * r88e2246a0e6e 10/crawl-ref/source/ (actor.h makefile.obj player-act.cc player.cc player.h): Start moving code from player.cc to player-act.cc. 05:38:24 03by * r6a85c4874b09 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files): Move PlaceInfo to place-info.{cc,h}. 05:38:26 03by * r3572979943a2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (19 files in 2 dirs): Move player stat handling to player-stats.{cc,h}. 05:39:08 Xiberia: Sounds like my guess would be wrong. :) 05:39:26 Xiberia: Would you file it please? 05:41:08 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:43:48 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:19 -!- xardas-3 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100214235838]] 05:59:32 Yes i am enjoying SC2 05:59:36 -!- purge_ is now known as purge 06:09:37 * due home 06:09:40 Keskitalo: No comments on the post :( 06:13:34 due: it's the middle of the night in the states 06:13:37 give it time 06:13:38 (: 06:13:49 (on that note, i really should be heading to bed) 06:15:13 doy: nights! 06:18:33 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:27 dpeg: where does the e in dpeg come from? 06:22:21 bhaak: 'e'xtended? 06:22:49 Don't really know... 06:23:28 and how many jokes did johanna have to bear because of her nick? :) 06:23:31 -!- Mu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:49 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:50 bhaak: She chose her nick because of the joke, I think. 06:24:13 So, in jpeg, the e is for Einstein 06:24:41 my guess would have been Experts :) 06:25:03 J. P. Einstein-Gymnasium. It's an old nick of hers :) 06:25:16 After that, I took dpeg. 06:25:16 she probably just chose it so she can say she has her own wikipedia article! 06:25:33 Her nick might be older than wikipedia :P 06:27:39 i can't remember a time without wikipedia :D 06:29:00 but I probably read to much scrolls of amnesia :) 06:29:56 bhaak: Crawl got rid of all amnesia... but we already had that :P 06:30:23 dpeg: unnethack got rid of the scrolls, but not of the mmf 06:30:34 Fear, confusion and shrooms in V:8, check my game for a nice bit of mayhem. :) 06:30:53 bhaak: Keskitalo <3 06:30:57 erm -bhaak 06:33:14 Those guards really need to stop following you taking the stairs. 06:34:07 Keskitalo: could make that a property of "guard" 06:34:23 As in orb guardian, vault guardian etc. 06:34:43 Yeah, or make it a function of the "patrolling" tag. 06:35:06 Well, I'd want orb guardians to go where the orb is, not where the orb was :) 06:35:17 Heh, indeed. 06:35:32 My shroom tactics have me running out of piety, it sees. 06:36:06 That's good! 06:36:33 Yup! 06:37:12 Wouldn't V:8 be a golden opportunity for a full oklob castle? 06:37:19 doy: True! 06:38:27 perhaps better to teleport first, then set up a castle 06:40:01 -!- ivan has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 06:52:17 Keskitalo: are your oklobs shooting? 06:52:30 Slowly. I wonder if I'm in their line of fire. 06:52:41 I don't really dare to move. :) 06:53:11 Keskitalo: what are piety and Inv? 06:53:42 Might as well put Inv training back on, what else I'm going to use the exp for. :) Gives the plants more HP. 06:53:48 I think the rate of spitting depends on something. 06:53:51 ah 06:56:20