00:00:00 followed up by whining about teleportitis 00:00:57 tbf, teleportitis can be pretty awful if you aren't ready. its take a few of my younger characters to their grave. 00:01:20 but then, thats kinda what the game is about, managing you risks... 00:01:22 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:57 and it does have a distinct plus, iirc all sources of teleportitis can be evoked/activated semi-reliably. 00:02:06 ...no 00:02:15 Textmode: the complaint was about the mutation, specifically 00:02:19 the mutation can't 00:02:31 hmm... 00:03:07 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:07 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:03:09 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper is now known as GrimmSweeper 00:04:09 -!- karmatic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:01 -!- eric_c_c has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:05:24 yeah, i guess that would kinda suck. but then, thats why its a bad mutation, how'd he get tele. mut., anyway? 00:07:26 -!- eric_c_c has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:44 -!- eric_c_c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:03 -!- eric_c_c has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:17 hello? 00:10:33 there's a lot of ways to get it 00:10:51 -!- karmatic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:10:57 glow, neqoxecs, orbs of fire, potion of mutation, you name a mutation source and it's possible 00:11:45 ogaz: I meant, specifically, how'd the guy bitchign about it in the thread get it? 00:12:03 no idea 00:12:09 I haven't even read the thread 00:14:13 -!- eric_c_c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:03 -!- karmatic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:05 -!- eric_c_c has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:22 -!- eric_c_c has quit [Client Quit] 00:20:31 -!- karmatic has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:21:26 Hio. 00:22:13 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:25:10 'lo 00:25:19 how are you today ixtli 00:25:20 ? 00:25:31 Pretty good. 00:25:36 Was sick yesterday, but I slept it off. 00:25:49 Also there was an earthquake! 00:25:51 http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010tube.php 00:25:52 good that you are feeling better. 00:26:15 just don't overexert yourself too soon, lest you get sick again. 00:26:56 Indeed. 00:27:19 Have you started porting crawl to your handheld console thing? 00:29:32 nothing past the initial attempt to compile and run the (unmodified) code. builds cleanly, but running it (via telnet) just causes the device to slow down before eventually locking up, #dingoonity suggests its running out of memory, which wouldn't be unexpected. 00:30:26 You're telneting to the device? 00:45:58 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:51:59 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:03 IOOD generated chunks and autopickup (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1065) by Amonchakad 01:34:14 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:11 Armour of See Invisible needs screen redraw before activating (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1066) by Amonchakad 01:51:45 ixtli: for testing, I wantted to know if it ran at all, so I knew where to focus my effort 01:51:57 Indeed. 01:52:13 Is the telnet server your running known to work XD ? 01:55:05 I've used it successfully before, in thoery is a standard telnetd. 01:55:44 though I confess, I can't recall having tried it with something that used curses before... 01:58:21 Hmm. 01:58:30 As they said, though. It might be stashes that starts the slow the thing down. 03:03:35 !seen by 03:03:36 I last saw by at Sat Mar 13 21:44:49 2010 UTC (10h 18m 47s ago) quitting with message Quit: leaving. 03:09:55 Woah. 03:09:59 Another earthquake. 03:10:01 This is crazy. 03:11:58 Where? 03:18:52 Tokyo. 03:19:06 Had my first one last night, I was sick so it was extra intense. 03:19:18 due: I believe it was http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010tube.php 03:20:43 Honshu! I did spell it right. 03:20:46 (Crossword question.) 03:20:48 Hahahah 03:20:50 Totally. 03:21:10 * due scrolled to map. 03:21:20 North of Tokyo, yeah? 03:21:32 Yeah, I live in Saitama-ken. 03:21:34 Which is just north. 03:21:35 Oh, quite far north of Tokyo. 03:21:48 The one that happened like 10 minutes ago was /much/ longer. 03:22:02 Apart from the location of Tokyo and Okinawa, I'm not good on my Japanese geography. 03:22:20 I can only remember Honshuu, too. 03:22:38 Ah, Hokkaido and Kyuushuu are the others. 03:22:54 *Hokkaidou, can't do accents properly on this keyboard. 03:23:10 eh, people often drop the long o 03:23:16 I, for one, hate romaji. 03:23:41 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:46 Hey by. 03:23:51 hi 03:33:59 Orbs of destruction can be blinked; that's working as intended? 03:34:46 I doubt it. 03:36:52 how, distortion? 03:37:17 dart of dispersal 03:37:22 (that's the name, I think?) 03:37:51 ah, nice; are you even supposed to be able to shoot them with missiles? 03:38:17 I *think* that the dart was directed at me, and the orb got in the middle...if that's even possible 03:38:53 would you mind filing this? kilobyte would know 03:38:57 also, orbs are supposed to be blocked? 03:39:01 Ok,I'll file it 03:39:06 blocked by a shield, I mean 03:39:22 re blocking, I think yes; I've seen specific code related to that 03:39:37 sounds odd that you can block a huge ball of pure primal energy with a wooden shield 03:45:15 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46:26 Orb of Destruction blinked by a dart of blinking (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1067) by Amonchakad 04:00:51 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:04:52 by: tiles.h:52: error: ‘you’ was not declared in this scope 04:04:59 by: Where is you supposed to be declared? 04:05:38 I had this problem once before but I don't remember what I did to solve it. The curious thing is that I get this error when compiling tilefont.o and I've never touched tiles.h 04:09:11 env.h, I think 04:11:49 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:12:04 -!- cbus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:59 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:34 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:21 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:32:03 -!- cbus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:43 player.h 04:39:01 night all 04:40:25 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 04:54:22 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:57:24 -!- cbus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:25 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:11:35 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:24 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:13:06 -!- cbus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:26:08 -!- cbus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:26 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:29:42 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:13 are kirke's hogs supposed to disappear when you kill her? 05:30:41 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:30:57 hmm, something weird happened here 05:32:28 Floating monster: human at (49,31), midx = 29 05:37:19 @?? hog 05:37:19 hog (05h) | Speed: 13 | HD: 6 | Health: 18-48 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Damage: 14 | Res: 06magic(24) | XP: 195. 05:51:25 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:53 -!- cbus_ is now known as cbus 06:03:51 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:03:52 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04:33 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:33 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 06:25:11 ugh this is so frustrating. 06:25:14 i never modified tiles.h 06:25:24 what's wrong? 06:30:28 idea: what about having a branch with proposed fixes for 0.6, and a separate one for 0.6.1? 06:30:54 by: tile.h refers to 'player.h'::you 06:31:10 you're having circular #include problems? 06:31:19 by: However it never includes anything that includes player.h 06:31:23 just the opposite. 06:31:29 tiles.h never includes player.h 06:31:39 does including player.h not help? 06:31:46 it makes weird things happen 06:32:30 wait what... 06:32:35 hold on a sec it's ... stopped? 06:32:36 probably circular includes if you add it? 06:34:07 give me a sec to make clean and make debug 06:34:12 it only takes 2 minutes on this machine 06:36:08 oh, also add #include "AppHdr.h" at the start of every .cc file 06:37:20 oh 06:37:22 ... 06:37:25 that's probably it 06:40:28 by: Thank you! <3 06:43:23 -!- Erisdiscordia has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:04 Who moderates crawl-ref-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net ? 06:51:45 ixtli: yay; no idea re the list 06:53:59 03by * r899f0742cf48 10/crawl-ref/source/tiles.h: Make tiles.h include player.h explicitly, sice it uses it. 07:14:15 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:16:11 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:36 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 07:29:30 -!- by has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:29:59 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:56 -!- Madtrixr has joined ##crawl-dev 07:51:17 crap, if anything in the score file is unexpected, we get a crash 07:51:25 and it's not an easy fix, either 07:55:12 -!- by has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:55:35 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:43 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:20:42 -!- by_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:42 -!- by has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:27:37 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:55 Have you seen the complaint about 0.6 in rgrmß 08:30:30 he has been playing ev characters so he is probably imagining the climb in difficultty 08:30:52 I think so, too. 08:31:10 dpeg, can you post a google groups link? :) 08:31:11 I didn't have much trouble with the arly game. At least that's what I recall. 08:31:18 (school shell seems borked so can't ssh and use slrn to check) 08:31:20 cbus: no, unfortunately not. 08:31:47 dpeg, remember the threads name? 08:31:58 peter huebner? 08:32:06 it's the newest one 08:32:15 Adeon: yes 08:32:18 stupid f-ing google 08:32:23 its on swedish :* 08:32:24 :( 08:32:37 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:18 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_frm/thread/fe670540e9e5516c# 08:33:26 thanks 08:33:40 swedish is almost like german :-) 08:34:25 but what problems do you have reading swedish when coming from a swedish IP? 08:35:11 eeh, that post seems to be weird 08:35:19 seems like he sucks at the game and thats about it 08:35:41 bhaak, well, I never have swedish as a primary language when I use computers :D 08:35:48 I love the threats of "I'm going to have to play the old version." It comes up so often :) 08:36:01 well, AC is a bit overnerfed imo :D 08:36:17 yeah, except he mentioned only EV chars 08:36:20 he claims to have felt in control with the older version 08:36:25 bhaak, and then when they have translated all the groups "rekreationellt" "spel" and so on 08:36:33 it makes me lost :) 08:36:40 and there was no change to EV unless you get Dex past 16 or EV past 30. 08:37:04 cbus: that's globalization -> it's just not English everywhere anymore :) 08:37:36 bhaak, I thought google would be a bit clever, cause I visit GOOGLE dot F-ING COM not gooogle.se 08:37:39 :) 08:39:36 cbus: I think the set a preference cookie, when you go to "www.google.com" and select "google.com in English" on the lower right side 08:39:57 btw, cool Google Logo of the day 08:40:36 ahh, thanks 08:44:10 -!- hotsun has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:39 so it's time for my monthly question 08:46:46 any idea when 0.6 final will be released? :D 08:46:48 stabwound, not your monthly game? : 08:46:50 :D 08:47:01 I haven't played since august 08:47:10 doh :) 08:47:11 why not? 08:47:18 monday was the target but there may be some new release blockers 08:47:22 I got bored of it 08:47:26 oh wow, monday? 08:47:26 ahh, ok 08:47:28 fair enough :) 08:47:49 stabwound, better stash up on coffee and have the pizza ordering menu close by ;) 08:47:59 stabwound, you should get the first 0.6 win 08:48:17 nah, I'm sure someone else will 08:48:27 but you aret he best :) 08:49:23 stabwound, you should try ogres with the new GSC 08:49:31 gsc? 08:49:34 giant spiked club 08:49:37 ahh 08:49:50 sorry for weird abbreviations, but it seems to have become almost official (GSC) 08:49:57 stabwound: or just wait until the tournament! 08:50:00 what's different about it? 08:50:06 That's what I did for some time with Nethack. 08:50:10 no more tournaments for me, I think :P 08:50:12 stabwound, upped damage and lowered delay I think 08:50:14 ?? GSC 08:50:14 giant spiked club[1/1]: It looks *really* painful. Damage rating: 20 Accuracy rating: -7 Base attack delay: 200, (pierce) damage, never generated with an enchantment. Cannot be wielded except by trolls, hill giants, and ogres. In trunk, they are 22 damage, 18 delay! 08:50:30 stabwound: cannot have a relaxed approach to the tournament, eh? :) 08:50:49 I can't play the hours and hours a day it takes to place highly in the tournament :P 08:51:03 no point in playing if you aren't playing to win! :P 08:51:39 My point is that if you're only playing occasionally, can just as well do it in the tournament, and try to get some odd win, or help some clan. 08:51:54 yeah 08:52:37 I think 0.6 will renew my interest for a while 08:53:01 stabwound, trog weapon gifting should make it more fun to play Be btw :) 08:53:16 I haven't been keeping up with the 0.6 changes at all 08:53:22 so it should be interesting :S 08:53:23 he gives much better weapons now 08:53:26 hmm 08:53:28 expecting an exec axe in lair :D 08:53:34 wow 08:53:42 is okawaru nerfed? 08:53:48 nope 08:53:53 yay 08:55:15 it this relevant to 0.6 or only for 0.7? http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/changelog_page.php 08:55:45 (because it says 0.7) 08:55:48 stabwound: this is trunk, so both 0.6 and 0.7, I think 08:55:50 cbus: that bug is fixed. For some time, Trog was considered to be a non-god so his gifts were treated as scrolls and thus brought you good stuff. 08:56:10 ooh ok 08:56:14 no point in playing trog anymore then :D 08:56:19 lol 08:56:35 ^Q and makhleb here I come :) 08:57:00 trog is one of the better gods, imo 08:57:04 unless he's been nerfed 08:57:08 stabwound: no nerf 08:57:18 stabwound: which gods do you consider not goodß 08:57:25 damn Shift key 08:57:39 haha wow 08:57:48 i tried to copy your german double s thing 08:57:54 and got A one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss 08:57:56 instead 08:58:01 :) 08:58:14 well, I can only speak for 0.5, but zin is probably my least favourite of all 08:58:25 zin and ely 08:58:25 kiku is also not that great 08:58:27 GOD_NO_GOD > Zin 08:59:10 zin saved a spriggan game for me once, though 08:59:12 kilobyte: this is not true in the later game, but it is true early on. 08:59:17 well, Kiku received quite an overhaul in 0.6 08:59:26 stabwound: K has been improved for 0.6. 08:59:35 k is pretty neat in 0.6 08:59:38 Xiberia: E can hold his ground, imo. 08:59:46 wanna give a quick run down of his changes? :D 08:59:56 even in the later game, all he has is mutation resistance and sanctuary 08:59:57 dpeg, possible, i just don't like him/her 09:00:07 while you suffer from conducts all the way 09:00:38 kilobyte: well, also feeding, gaining piety for money and the divine doping bit. But yes, Recite will be repaired and another power added. 09:01:14 yeah... I can appreciate the idea behind Recite but it just doesn't work 09:01:37 in my experience anyway 09:02:03 feeding doesn't make up for removing more than half of food you get, including all of food in Orc and Elf 09:04:44 divine feeding is a pretty lame gift anyway :B 09:04:55 unless you get extremely unlucky or just don't know what you're doing 09:05:34 I did take zin out of desperation on a spriggan, which saved it... the only time I've ever used zin, I think 09:05:57 stabwound: you abused Elyvilon to get piety in time, right? 09:06:16 nope 09:06:50 hmm, I can't really remember the exact circumstances 09:06:57 but I know I was going to starve if I didn't get zin 09:09:22 without Ely, Zin provides around 1/3 of spriggan's food needs 09:09:52 there's a player on the server going zin for food right now 09:10:03 got a bit too naughty with Alter Self :D 09:10:07 heh 09:10:38 in my spriggan game, I think I literally found 10-15 meat rations and 1 regular one 09:10:47 never had that happen before 09:11:39 I don't think you can actually use strictly zin for food long term 09:11:57 oh, wait. There's a big use for Zin. 09:12:02 I couldn't, anyway 09:12:14 Ely+bribe for piety, drop mutations, dump Zin. 09:14:41 stabwound: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl-ref.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt;h=3fe69281b891daf0c1d91f1115b44d114c83a5b2;hb=refs/heads/stone_soup-0.6 09:14:55 hey, awesome 09:14:57 thanks 09:16:44 is this true " 09:16:44 85 * Rings of slaying also apply to missile launchers. 09:18:32 appears to be though the effect isn't very dramatic 09:19:17 I'm not even sure how much the enchantment on bows etc effects damage 09:19:33 doesn't the enchantment on the arrows matter much more? 09:19:51 it's very variable so it's hard to ascertain 09:19:52 or maybe I'm totally wrong, it just seemed that way to me 09:21:15 oh hey the lair got shortened 09:21:25 "There is an entrance to Gimi Fag's Antique Weapon Shoppe here." 09:21:31 hahahah 09:22:07 doesn't beat "Fag Cum's Jewellery Shop" though 09:22:16 bizarelly that has happened twice 09:23:15 heh 09:29:38 153 * Monsters may quaff potions of might and berserk rage. 09:29:41 oh my 09:30:54 136 * Slime creatures can merge in corridors to become larger and more powerful. 09:30:57 double oh my 09:31:08 @?? titanic slime creature 09:31:08 titanic slime creature (03J) | Speed: 10 | HD: 11 | Health: 33-88 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Damage: 110 | Flags: amphibious | Res: 06magic(44), 03poison, asphyx | XP: 1509. 09:31:13 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:20 well that looks nice 09:31:23 doesn't really ever happen though 09:31:28 greensnark: Hi there! 09:31:56 syllogism: could be set up in vaults, though :) 09:32:19 it should at least be speed 9 :p 09:32:26 why? 09:32:41 it will split up pretty quick 09:32:58 ah, I don't even know how those work 09:33:16 I don't think anyone knows :P 09:33:43 !lg * killer=~slime creature s=killer 09:33:44 697 games for * (killer=~slime creature): 649x a slime creature, 21x a very large slime creature, 15x a large slime creature, 8x an enormous slime creature, 3x a titanic slime creature, 1x a slime creature (shapeshifter) 09:34:01 won't you release another rc before 0.6? 09:34:02 most/all of those were probably before the tweaks 09:34:23 at least the larger ones 09:37:48 mmmm, msvc intellisense started working without compiling. Now I have msysevn for compiling and msvc for editing <3 09:38:11 can you make friendly big jellies with jiyva? 09:38:38 they are neutral 09:38:41 felirx: progress? 09:38:51 jellies don't merge 09:39:34 oh 09:39:35 Hello everyone 09:39:52 writing the class definition still 09:40:27 neutral slime creatures don't combine 09:41:10 oh weird jiyva slime creatures eat items too 09:44:10 syllogism: that's a bug, I guess 09:47:09 it's probably better like that 09:50:44 -!- ortoslon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:56 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:54 -!- [1]hotsun has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:01 -!- hotsun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:05:02 -!- [1]hotsun is now known as hotsun 10:11:35 I've decided to try and help with crawl's development, but having no experience in this, I'm starting from the very basics 10:11:59 I've obtained the source code through git; but how do I compile it, exactly? 10:13:12 -!- [1]hotsun has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:18 cd source && make 10:13:19 so I rebased my iPad branch 10:13:26 but now I don't seem to be able to push remote 10:13:54 -!- [1]hotsun has left ##crawl-dev 10:14:27 -!- hotsun has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:17:28 nm i guess you have to -f (orce) after you rebase. 10:22:08 -!- by_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:22:25 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:26 could anyone here (perhaps on a private channel, to prevent cluttering) explain me a couple things on how git works? 10:30:48 have you browsed through the git crash course on the wiki? 10:32:35 ixtli: Yes, rebasing rewrites your history so in essence you've re-branched from our master branch and added your commits on top of it (instead of merging our master into your branch) 10:33:07 neunon: Hi there :) 10:33:12 It's rebased, and finished. 10:33:13 ixtli: ohai :) 10:33:16 XD 10:33:25 Also I'm pending approval to post to the SF list. 10:33:29 And to follow it. 10:33:30 Which is silly. 10:33:38 Er, yes, that is silly. 10:35:07 Also, Amonchakad is interested in contributing to Crawl so I linked him to the progit book :D 10:35:55 its contagious 10:36:19 It's a good book. It came out after I had learned git, unfortunately for me ;) 10:37:06 Also, how does one learn c++, exactly? 10:37:07 neunon: Hi! 10:37:12 I'm not actually sure how i learned. 10:37:19 dpeg: hi there :) 10:38:26 _Donald says, "Like I always say, the jar is half empty." 10:39:22 -!- felirx_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:45 -!- felirx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:43:21 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:52:24 -!- Erisdiscordia has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:53:38 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:01 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:20 -!- felirx_ is now known as felirx 11:04:24 03kilobyte 07debian * rec111d298447 10/crawl-ref/debian/ (changelog crawl-common.postinst): Drop ancient score files on upgrade. 11:04:31 03kilobyte 07debian * r23edea091808 10/crawl-ref/debian/crawl-common.postinst: Touch and chmod "scores" not "saves". 11:06:53 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:46 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:07:53 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:51 anyone have windows IRC client recommendation? 11:18:25 irssi 11:19:45 i like kvirc 11:20:51 ive tried alot of the windows clients 11:22:23 irssi, preferably in screen somewhere is all you will ever need for your IRC purposes :) 11:23:50 almost, screen can't do Unicode >U+FFFF, so you need tmux which otherwise sucks. 11:25:03 but if you connect from Windows, the issue is moot anyway since 1. all popular Windows ssh clients suffer from that bug as well, 2. no Windows ssh client I know can handle characters not present in the default font you use, and there's no good fixed-pitch font with good Unicode coverage 11:31:05 What about an IRC client which presents itself as a nice, clean .exe? 11:31:22 The lightiest possible 11:37:17 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:57 just because it's a singel .exe file, does not neccessarily mean it's the lightest invention of mankind 11:41:50 this is... weird logic 11:43:08 there's a menuclass which holds the data of a menu. then There's MenuDisplay that draws the menu. MenuDisplay takes a pointer to a menu. All fine this far. Inside Menu however is a pointer to a MenuDisplay class that takes a pointer to a menu class. 11:43:29 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:47:13 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:35 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:55:40 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:04 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 12:07:12 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net] 12:07:25 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:28 -!- karmatic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:19 So whoever moderates the mailing list on SF should consider allowing anyone to subscribe to it. 12:08:32 Doesn't make sense that subscription should require admin approval. 12:09:42 ixtli: I suspect that restriction was put in to prevent spamming 12:09:51 yes 12:09:58 Hmm. 12:10:13 There are spam subscriptions? 12:10:15 Damn. 12:10:18 Never expected that ... 12:12:51 -!- karmatic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:48 -!- karmatic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:33 wherever there is a way to get a message to people, there will be spammers 12:38:58 But subscribing for notifications isn't the same as being able to mail the list ... 12:43:15 i unsurscribed from mailing list after due started making playtesting posts (i'm not a dev but i want to follow development) 12:44:39 ixtli: i'm using pidgin (IM client) with several plugins for IRC 12:44:57 huh, didn't know it had IRC plugs. 12:45:02 I know very very little about windows. 12:45:17 Amonchakad seems to want to get into application dev to hack on crawl. 12:45:24 So I was helping him find tools. 12:45:32 Yeah, uh, hi there 12:45:42 plugins are called "IRC Helper" and "IRC More" 12:45:50 Cool. 12:46:21 I'm trying to understand the whole process(with git and everything) 12:46:32 before that, i tried using mirc, chatzilla and xchat, i prefer pidgin over all of them 12:46:55 ortoslon: is there any drawbacks at just using browser-based webchat? 12:47:14 beside the features of the clients 12:49:01 webchat.freenode.net doesn't support logging 12:49:36 mibbit is okay 12:52:01 oh wait, freenode didn't allow mibbit last time i tried it 12:52:12 if you close the browser, you get disconnect 12:52:15 and have no access to backlogs 12:52:26 same with any local irc-client 12:58:57 also i seem to recall not being able to join certain channels from those 12:59:08 to discourage spamming ;-) 13:06:45 -!- timecircuits has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:59 -!- timecircuits has left ##crawl-dev 13:13:29 -!- karmatic has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:16:31 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25:55 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:00 -!- timecircuits has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:07 -!- timecircuits has left ##crawl-dev 13:27:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:45 -!- timecircuits1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:45 -!- timecircuits1 has left ##crawl-dev 13:43:32 @??Purgy 13:43:32 Purgy (03T) | Speed: 10 | HD: 5 | Health: 35 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Damage: 9, 4, 4 | Res: 06magic(13) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 134. 13:43:35 ??Purgy 13:43:37 purgy[1/1]: An unusually thin and nervous troll. Sad, really. :( 13:49:33 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:22 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:50:58 enchant weapon III had no effect on a +1 rod of smiting. is it a bug? 13:54:08 in 0.6 rc 13:55:42 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:28 probably 14:00:40 -!- jld has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:02:05 -!- ivan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:35 random idea: convert weapon mimics into dancing weapons when you try to attack them from afar 14:03:55 ah, looks like rods are to be recharged, not enchanted 14:05:00 o_O autoexplore not interrupted upon seeing roxanne and adding LOS exclusions. that must be a bug 14:08:06 are orcish mines guaranteed? 14:08:10 yes 14:08:10 doy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:08:19 ?? orcish mines 14:08:19 orcish mines[1/3]: Found in the main dungeon, between D:6 and D:11. Four levels deep. Irregular layout with lots of bubbles; you can get stuck if you aren't careful and don't have digging or infinite supplies of teleportation. Escape hatches can strand you very easily! 14:08:32 hmm, can't find em 14:08:33 !messages 14:08:33 (1/1) by said (8h 5m 46s ago): 08d9f5a5 and 3a32df81 should go in 0.6 14:08:34 tried all stairs 14:09:18 doy, 6-11 is that correct? 14:09:26 the ^O screen should tell you 14:09:42 hmm yeah, then it's walled off 14:10:17 ohh you needed digging to get there 14:10:22 ahh secret door 14:10:24 "nice vault" 14:10:28 oh that one 14:10:29 yeah 14:10:30 (: 14:10:35 should I bug report? 14:10:46 or is it intentional? 14:11:05 which vault was it? 14:11:19 this one 14:11:20 yeah 14:11:23 that's intentional 14:11:30 heh, bad game design then 14:11:37 need to be spoiled to find it 14:11:40