00:00:54 we should be getting another within minutes 00:01:06 oh yes 00:01:13 Do I need to get the next small batch of XP tweaks in before the official feature freeze deal, or does that not count so no worries on timing? 00:01:45 Argh. 00:01:54 PDF Master list of Keyboard commands (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=891) by MstrPBK 00:01:56 "Please, read the fucking manual It may assist you." 00:01:57 03greensnark * rfde2f2ee8ef8 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Make the Lernaean hydra zombifiable. 00:02:07 greensnark: :O 00:02:15 Twinge: master is open for business as usual; doy decides whether to pull individual changes into 0.6. 00:02:40 severity: major 00:02:45 description: i can't read the manual 00:02:49 Just separate orthogonal changes into their own commits so he can evaluate your commits more easily 00:02:54 and it's priority major 00:02:55 yeah 00:02:58 :D 00:02:59 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:03 Personally this ought to be a standard Download document with the game. 00:03:17 greensnark: k. 00:03:18 Monster mood question - are there monsters which are allied and will fight with you, but which won't follow your orders? 00:03:24 personally I don't see why anyone would want *more* PDFs 00:03:38 -!- tinyrodent has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:03:46 @TGW - pretty colored backgrounds? Tiles? 00:05:23 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 00:07:34 b/c I'm thinking of ways to differentiate Makhleb summons from the equivalent spells. How's this - demons show up with smite targeting, but are then fixed to wander, they don't follow your orders. 00:07:48 That seems useless. 00:07:54 that seems bad, yes 00:08:05 Flavour-wise, specifically. 00:08:10 Invocations-dependent, yes. 00:08:26 Why is that bad flavour-wise? Surely the demons work for Makhleb, and not for you. 00:09:43 Pacified monsters are like this, no? 00:10:00 As far as being useless, I'm worried if anything that it would be too powerful, since you'd drop the demon in a room full of something fearsom and then run. 00:10:04 Because it makees it *utterly* useless. 00:10:07 Lugonu neutrals to a lesser extent. They'll kill hostiles, but they'll also take a swipe at you if you get in the way 00:10:20 Ah, that's a problem. 00:10:24 What's the point of spending piety and mana to summon a demon who most likely won't do what you want? 00:10:50 Well, if it'll reliably leap on and kill things, then you place it next to whatever you want dead. 00:11:26 Frankly, that sounds a lot better (to me) than spending your own turns ordering it around with "tell". 00:12:16 But if semi-friendlies can't be swapped by you and sometimes attack you, that's no good. 00:12:21 Hauntalready does that. 00:12:42 Well, yes. But summon demon doesn't :) 00:12:54 DrPraetor: neutral means "walks aimlessly around in circles, ignoring stuff 99% of the time, being ignored as often" 00:13:10 Yeah, so there isn't a mood between neutral and friendly? 00:13:12 DrPraetor: the attitude you want is "fights stuff at random", which is not currently in the game 00:13:14 perhaps we need a jerkass alignment 00:13:21 that hits everything 00:13:32 Probably not worth coding another mood just to make Makhleb's summons more interesting. 00:14:00 isn't berserk supposed to do that? 00:14:03 Being able to place them when summoned would make them different from regular summons but - whatever due may think - might make them obscenely powerful. 00:14:09 erm, wasn't it proposed that berserk be supposed to do that? 00:14:28 Needles of frenzy do that. 00:14:35 oh 00:14:38 DrPraetor: Haunt already does this. 00:14:52 I'm not sure what the issue is with the current Makhleb flavour and mechanism. Can someone fill me in? 00:14:53 Yes, due, I know that haunt does something rather similar. 00:15:05 DrPraetor just hates code reuse 00:15:09 @due - dpeg has been complaining that Invocations shouldn't be "like spells". 00:15:25 @due - and Makhleb's two demon summons are exactly like spells. 00:15:27 I don't think he was specifically yhighlighting Makleb. 00:15:38 Well, no, probably not. 00:15:52 eh? invocations being like spells is one of my favorite things about Crawl 00:16:26 * DrPraetor shrugs. 00:16:35 Fix Oka first :) 00:16:40 Personally, I see nothing wrong with "spell bag" deities. 00:17:13 I did. He gives you flying kick and fighting stances, instead of his current Might/Haste thing. 00:17:20 Now code it up. Schnell! 00:17:28 DrPraetor: Makhleb is dpeg's sacred cow of god design 00:17:32 you do not touch Makhleb 00:18:05 Makhleb is the one god that's rocked hard from 4.0 and been practically unchanged 00:18:07 especially not if you're trying to help dpeg's plan 00:18:07 He is the gold standard for game balance, I'm aware. 00:18:41 What if I'm trying to undermine dpeg's plan from within? 00:19:01 Then I will simultaneously join you and oppose you! 00:19:18 That is both an excellent and terrible notion, Twinge. 00:19:31 what's dpeg's plan? 00:20:16 * DrPraetor resists the urge to tell a step 2: ???, step 3: profit! joke. 00:22:30 Swamp dragons and drakes should make strong poison when distilled. 00:27:07 golden dragons should distill into dwarf tears 00:30:50 Dwarf tears turn into 3x3 heaps of gold when evaporated? 00:37:40 Sometimes into a golden axe 00:38:46 fulsome distillation should leave the hide and skeleton behind, really 00:38:57 (Animate Skeleton synergy!) 00:39:29 Doesn't it melt the bones down? 00:41:11 It could melt the flesh off the bones just as easily. I agree that it is kinda anti-synergistic with a lot of other necro. 00:43:27 Which isn't inherently a problem, but could be looked at. Especially if Fulsome ever had use beyond only teaming with Evaporate 00:44:14 you can use it to try to get more decks of wonders I guess 00:44:54 Hehe, yeah I suppose 00:45:19 Otherwise it let's Spriggans effectively eat mutagenic corpses, huzzah 00:46:38 it might be useful for che worshippers to get potions of slow 00:48:53 Potions of mutation have nutrient value? 00:48:56 * DrPraetor is confused. 00:50:01 DrPraetor: Not so much, but the mutations can be worthwhile if you have some cures on hand if it goes too sour. More mutations are good than bad for a Spriggan Transmuter (though Berserkeritis is REALLY REALLY bad) 00:50:32 DrPraetor: all potions have 20 nutrition(except for water, which 60, and porridge, which is a lot) 00:51:52 *loads char* Looks like I ended up with EV+1, Teleport Control, Teleport at Will, AC+4, Str-1, Int-2, HP+10%. Pretty nice set overall 00:52:26 Basically I had like 25 mutation potions from ugly things and 4 or 5 cure muts available, so I decided to go nuts and see what I could get :) 00:52:34 !tell Keskitalo Pushed the epilogue stuff, will document later. 00:52:35 due: OK, I'll let Keskitalo know. 00:52:43 03due * re0cd8dda2377 10/crawl-ref/source/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Lua map epilogues (Keskitalo). 00:52:46 03due * rac1e10a64082 10/crawl-ref/source/prebuilt/ (levcomp.lex.cc levcomp.tab.cc levcomp.tab.h): Update prebuild level compiler code for Lua epilogues. 00:53:21 Since Spriggs are already stuck on Herbivore, Cover Ground Quickly, Consume no Food, and Armor Fits Poorly there's not that much bad that you can get (except, as I mentioned, evil berserkeritis) 00:54:04 teleportitis? slow healing? 00:54:05 I think a bunch more mutations would do a lot of good 00:54:17 you also forgot to mention that you can't get blurry either 00:55:22 is there a wiki page for em? 00:55:42 yep 00:55:57 Right, no blurry. And yes, there are still some other bad ones obviously, but the really debilitating one was berserk by far 00:56:47 it's already enormous 00:56:50 http://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:misc:mutations 00:56:52 why do spriggans have sharp eyesight, anyway? 00:59:06 Why don't elves? I think it has something to do with having pointy ears? 01:00:32 I don't see why elves should have it either 01:05:15 "A closed warning scrawled door" feels a bit awkward 01:05:57 I thoroughyl approve of sealing off the slime pits behind a door that cannot be eaten, though :) 01:06:11 Eek, ice dragon 01:06:20 A closed door with a warning inscribed on it, maybe? 01:09:13 A closed door, enscribed with wang. 01:11:21 ogaz: The grammer is odd. 01:11:31 I think we could change it to use tokens instead. 01:11:39 "A %s, inscribed with blah blah." 01:11:46 and mprf where %s is the entity name. 01:12:00 due: yeah, that would be better than my suggestion 01:14:01 uh huh. 01:14:08 I just got as Bailey loot: 01:14:13 _I - 6 scrolls of acquirement 01:14:41 Hawt 01:16:19 got - randart gloves with +3 int, centaur barding of lev, ring of wizardry, randart ring with St+2 and lev 01:16:27 and two branded gloves 01:16:45 I guess the game really wants you to float 01:17:52 People don't live or die, people just float 01:26:55 why's there not an rF- and rC- mutation? 01:27:57 rF- mutation: "You turn into a sheep!" 01:30:39 :P 01:31:01 The terrying demon sheep 01:31:10 hellsheep 01:31:18 they breath firestorm 01:31:59 El Borrego Diablo! 01:32:17 an Ice/Tloc randart book 01:32:19 really? 01:32:22 no overlap at all 01:32:34 sorear: it's telling you to make an overlap 01:33:26 Dehydrate spell: draw all the water out of a creature's body, forming a water elemental (permanent!) and damaging the targeted monster 01:33:44 Lots of games had something like this, though :P 01:35:20 where would I find the code that offers chunks? 01:35:25 it seems to be hiding 01:37:26 food.cc looks like a likely candidate 01:37:38 Presumably prompt_eat_chunks 01:37:43 I didn't say it was hiding very well 01:37:46 :P 01:38:00 It was jumping up and down and waving its arms at you :P 01:40:12 hmm, sticky flame is broken 01:40:14 * sorear fixes 01:40:35 how's that? it seemed functional a moment ago 01:44:35 _The curare-tipped runed needle hits you! 01:44:39 and... nothing 01:44:49 wasn't this fixed ages ago 02:17:46 Keskitalo: I spy you. 02:18:07 We have a Keskitalo sighting 02:18:11 Tharrr she blows! 02:18:30 mmm coffee 02:19:52 cbus: http://dirty.ru/comments/241763 02:20:08 sorear: I agree on Fulsome & leaving skeletons behind!! 02:20:14 Keskitalo: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:20:22 greensnark, still no fulsome fix? :D 02:20:29 Who, me? :P 02:20:32 greensnark, jpeg moved the BR to FR 02:20:48 greensnark, by someone (haven't had internet the last like 4 days) 02:21:12 I prefer not to step on other devs' toes if I can help it, so I'll let it lie 02:21:24 s/other // 02:21:32 napkin was trying to make a patch 02:21:35 but zZ is a mess 02:21:36 due: Thanks for the epilogues! 02:21:44 cbus: Look at the link ^^ 02:22:02 apparently my "return false" -> return true patch wasn't enough 02:22:38 haha 02:42:38 !tell doy The second round of user testing will test 0.7 builds. I failed to realize why you asked for the testing date before! But that's was a <3 thought. :) 02:42:38 Keskitalo: OK, I'll let doy know. 02:43:07 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52:35 Strange [X] transparent tiles appear over tiles where lava smoke appears. (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=892) by LorentzFactor 02:53:03 -!- mr0t has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53:15 -!- mr0t has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:12 -!- mr0t has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:08:37 03sorear * ra03a84dd73e4 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: In order to put out fire with water, the water must actually contact the fire. 03:16:32 -!- xandir has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:40 -!- xandir has left ##crawl-dev 03:17:09 did poison breath get buffed on draconian? i mean it seems to instant kill stuff 03:21:17 the bazaar was still there when i left, and i reentered and got a different bazaar 03:23:34 purge, nice, gotta try :D 03:23:45 * cbus starts up a DrCK (should be nice with EV buff) 03:24:33 heh, its hard going for my char 03:24:57 haven't found a decent weapon yet :/ 03:25:40 purge, UC :D 03:26:13 a possibility heh 03:26:39 yeah, you get the tail slap as a bonus attack 03:26:52 so thats always nice 03:32:22 -!- Spads has quit [Quit: catchin' out on an earthbound rattler] 03:49:08 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:50:20 -!- timecircuits has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:59:05 Yeah, definitely getting newb reports on the tracker. Good! 04:09:33 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:57 keskitalo, like? :D 04:13:30 All the MstrPBK reports, and the "what's this big red X, I've never heard of travel exclusions" report. I like how it overlaps with the UP stuff. :) 04:13:56 Time to check out the updated dgl! 04:18:09 So is anyone around familiar with the xcode project? 04:18:42 (I'm building an iPad port, and I'm messing around with tilegen and can't get it to build. 04:18:44 ) 04:19:17 ixtli: That sounds great! 04:19:21 Keskitalo: :) 04:19:35 Keskitalo: I'm wading through crawl-ref at the moment. 04:19:41 Just trying to figure out what does what. 04:20:15 ew iPad :P 04:20:19 I have an app running in the iphone sim that draws a console and tiles and stuff, so I'm at the point where I need to start making the game compile. 04:20:23 I believe Enne (Walker) and neunon (Steven Noonan) would be the people to ask. It might be best to shoot the question to the mailing list. 04:20:25 syllogism: It's gonna be fun for games :) 04:20:39 Keskitalo: I talked to Enne last night. He was very helpful :) 04:20:49 She. Good! :) 04:20:55 ^_^ 04:20:59 SHE was very helpful. 04:22:13 For some reason, I find the idea of tiles on a touch screen device very exciting. 04:22:43 Yeah. I think there is finally enough screen real estate to make a roguelike work. 04:22:50 The iPhone was a lost cause because there's just too much input. 04:23:15 But I'm confident I can do this without requiring any gestures more complicated than two-finger drag. 04:24:14 I tried an iPhone port of Nethack before, that had a loooot of gestures. 04:24:19 Yeah. 04:24:22 It's depressing. 04:25:13 the first mstrpbk report is amazing 04:25:57 Keskitalo: The xcode proj is just a bit annoying. It seems that it builds dep libraries instead of including them from /Library/Frameworks 04:26:12 Maybe i'll just make my own project for tilegen 04:29:54 How much longer will this have to go before I can say "Please read the manual before reporting more bugs." 04:30:01 neunon is our build system guru. 04:30:07 sorear: Requiring to read the manual is cruel. :P 04:30:33 RTFM is the first thing I do with every piece of software I use 04:30:42 it helps a lot with literacy, too 04:31:38 Bu-bu-but it's a game! There's really no reason that a bunch of those things that have been reported couldn't be communicated within the interface. 04:31:51 Except of course the "I heard there's a Town" thing :) 04:32:37 Do you really want to leave the dungeon [labyrinth] (ps. there's no town) y/n 04:32:52 Well, in a roundabout way - telling that going up with the Orb is the goal would probably make it clearer what the D:1 upstairs are there for. 04:34:07 but we *do* tell the goal 04:34:12 it's in the freaking manual 04:34:20 Manual, who reads manuals? 04:34:38 Everyone. OR ELSE. 04:35:55 That's a very cruel disposition and I'm against it. :) 04:38:01 Yikes. Heavy armor casting has seen a *terrible* nerf :/ 04:38:02 Keskitalo: I hate build systems, so I'll have to talk to him. 04:38:05 :P 04:38:22 it's not bad once you've some armour and str 04:38:56 I'm a level 18 pure caster, I find chain mail +4 int, I put it on, my level 6 spells are 'Fair' 04:39:03 do you have 12 str 04:39:08 13 04:39:19 0 armor 04:42:46 you'll need something like 7 armor to match pre "nerf" success 04:42:59 cbus: Hey, if you have any chance to miscast fulsome, you can still train it almost as before. :) 04:43:15 It might take several tries to get a miscast, but they don't waste turns! 04:43:22 (yeah it's awful) 04:43:34 syllogism: so if I have high Armor, it's actually easier than before? 04:43:38 yes 04:43:54 ok I know my next character then 04:50:18 though generally you need very high armour for to be easier 04:50:21 it 04:59:01 for some reason after spectacting someone it often won't allow me to spectate someone. That is, when I choose another letter it spectates the previous person again 04:59:07 someone else* 05:01:53 Keskitalo: I just copied the current crawl-ref source into my ipad project and hit compile cause I was curious, and it generated 30000+ errors. I am now sorting by X include does not exist (over 1000) 05:02:33 Uh. :) 05:04:18 ixtli: I don't know if that would help you, but have you looked at how iNetHack combines iPhone specific building with the normal nethack building? 05:04:19 I have an SSD in this machine so I can actually build tile in about 45 seconds. 05:04:42 bhaak: yeah. Actually, crawls xcode project is very nicely set up. 05:05:19 bhaak: After I understand the source tree and how it builds on OS X I shouldn't have /that/ big an issue making it build. 05:05:29 I have a little experience with SDL, so I know what to do there. 05:05:35 This code is surprisingly well laid out. 05:05:39 Much nicer than nethack, imo. 05:06:05 hmm, then I should maybe try to build crawl on OS X, I keep failing to build a runnable version of crawl on linux :) 05:06:23 bhaak: .5.2 is really easy. 05:06:40 You just need to install libfreetype, sdl, sdl_image and libpng frameworks yourself 05:06:46 then it should just be a one-click build. 05:06:52 ixtli: ah, okay 05:07:21 What I'm working to understand atm is what tilegen does 05:07:28 and how it's applied to this project 05:07:38 so that I can make it one click for myself. 05:08:45 ixtli: I have a link to XCode discussion from 21.10.2009, would that help 05:09:02 Please :D 05:09:10 * ixtli bows 05:09:24 Oh man. This dev community is soooo much nicer than the iphone dev team. 05:09:31 God those people were obnoxious. 05:13:56 ixtli: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=dc97c6b50910211456udb4b97uabb1c41d4249bbe3%40mail.gmail.com 05:14:22 Heh, happy to help. :) Sorry to hear about the iphone folks. :) 05:16:16 Keskitalo: Thank you, this will probably come in very handy. 05:16:50 At the moment I'm not running into too many xcode issue. It's actually a pretty nice IDE (I'm a bit of a VIM curmudgeon) 05:17:08 is ixtli from the UP? 05:17:19 UP .. ? 05:17:30 I read that up there 05:17:32 * ixtli points up 05:17:36 But what was it again? 05:18:16 Keskitalo's school group project thingie 05:18:30 Hm? 05:18:38 :o ? 05:18:39 ixtli: YOU SUCK OMG GET OUT. 05:18:45 * ixtli sobs 05:18:45 Does that help? ;) 05:18:50 Keskitalo! 05:18:53 "conduct a thorough usability study of a piece of open-source software, identify what the problems are and blah blah" 05:18:56 Keskitalo, did you see! 05:18:58 WAIT 05:19:11 THE TOPIC LIES 05:19:18 (It said you wouldn't be here.) 05:19:25 Heh. 05:19:34 I'm not actually. 05:19:36 sorear: that's cool. 05:19:40 Keskitalo: that's cool. 05:19:42 due: :O 05:19:50 -!- due changed the topic of ##crawl-dev to: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | due is semihere for the next few days. 05:19:56 Better? 05:19:58 Phew. 05:20:22 Things on the internet are always true. 05:20:23 So. 05:20:26 Thanks for fixing that for me. 05:20:37 People ended up in hospital, my vacation got cancelled, I had a minor nervous breakdown, and now I'm staying with relatives. 05:20:50 :( 05:20:52 Sorry to hear that. 05:20:59 It's fine! I have pills. 05:21:04 \o/ 05:21:41 Keskitalo: Strongly agree: re exclusion size. 05:21:53 duee! 05:22:28 Okay, now these trove bugs. 05:23:15 !tell doy The epilogue lua code stuff could possibly go in 0.6; this will hit the previous wish-list of being able to put more() message-stopopers in the pandemonium lord vaults. 05:23:15 due: OK, I'll let doy know. 05:24:20 oops, I was so busy playing Crawl today I forgot to tidy up demonspawn 05:25:53 sorear: No, ixtli's not from UP. :) 05:26:25 Keskitalo: I saw the Finns in the wniter olympics! 05:26:32 (They were hot.) They had cool names! 05:27:09 Hehe. :) I haven't followed the olympics at all.. if we had a TV, I'd probably watch some. 05:35:44 Moin guys :) 05:35:45 Napkin: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 05:35:48 Heyah Napkin! 05:36:12 Eino :) 05:36:29 Heh - I see that there are newbies creating tickets, huh? :D 05:36:46 -!- Xardas-3 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:55 Xardas-3: Thanks. 05:37:08 Hi Xardas-3, welcome. 05:37:10 with a few points you found in your UP too, Keskitalo :) 05:37:26 Hello 05:37:29 Xardas-3: Are you still getting these with a new build? 05:37:31 Napkin: Indeed! :) 05:37:38 And had you merely updated your build, or was it a completely new one? 05:37:44 just finished building, checking now... 05:37:47 Okay. 05:37:57 completely new now 05:38:01 I'm thinking that it might be corrupt maps. 05:38:28 Still getting it? 05:38:54 nope, now everything works 05:39:08 maybe something went wrong during updating process 05:39:36 or rather, seems to work 05:39:45 I need to do some more testing 05:40:13 so.. is everything working with the new DGL? 05:40:29 anyone found the quick play key yet? :D 05:40:54 Looks good, though I only playeed a bit and watched a bit so far. (The watch list didn't seem to show the "s" etc keys!) 05:41:10 Well, there's '?' arguably. :) 05:41:14 -!- phyphor_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:16 yeah - it got moved to the help screen 05:41:32 and it doesn't allow me to specify a banner in that screen 05:41:36 (yet) :) 05:41:36 okay, after deleting and redownloading everything seems to work correctly now 05:41:52 Quickplay, nice. 05:42:04 due's fault ;) 05:42:28 My fault! 05:42:32 oh.. and anyone notice, that after a game your are not put into the mainmenu this time? 05:42:42 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:42:42 Xardas-3: NExt time you run into it, go into saves and deleted the des folder :) 05:42:45 you'll stick in the submenu when returning to DGL 05:43:10 Napkin: Nice dgl :) 05:43:10 Napkin: Yes, I noticed this, this is aweosme. 05:43:27 greensnarking! 05:43:47 Hey, I wielded a cursed mace. This is bound to end well :P 05:43:56 Green Snark, the new DC superhero is here! 05:44:05 you are a mummy :P 05:44:34 greensnark: Should I update the map cache version number in maps.h? 05:44:39 greensnark: Now that I've added epilogues, etc? 05:44:49 Yes 05:44:55 Just increment by one? 05:44:57 okay, thanks everybody 05:45:02 for help 05:45:02 due: Yes 05:45:07 due: It's btw not just the Pan lord messages that epilogues fix - more important are the milestones! 05:45:18 Keskitalo: Oh? 05:45:23 Xardas-3: It's my fault, sorry you lost your saves. 05:45:36 due: Now we can generate them *after* the level has been validated and actually used. 05:45:48 Remember wya's 35000 Zig:1 milestones? :) 05:45:59 Ahhhhhh. 05:46:07 Yes, excellent idea. 05:46:15 due: no worries, just a bunch of low level chars 05:46:18 -!- phyphor_ is now known as phyphor 05:46:26 !tell doy Epilogues really need to go into 0.6 if possible, it'll fix the 35,000 milestone thing. 05:46:26 due: OK, I'll let doy know. 05:46:54 greensnark: Pushed, thanks. I meant to do it, but it slipped my mind. 05:47:04 something is wrong with setproctitle though.. seems like.. 10 to 15 empty spaces gets added at the end.. ugly empty lines in ps -ef 05:47:08 03due * rd98b36ebde78 10/crawl-ref/source/maps.h: Increment map cache version number (greensnark). 05:47:22 Hey, your change :P 05:47:37 yet we're blaming you :-P 05:47:54 Hm 05:48:06 cursor on the X screen is showing up as black when over darkgrey 05:48:16 greensnark - if you have some time - could you have a look at that setproctitle thingy? 05:48:34 something wrong with string creation.. 05:48:57 btw - good work on that !cdo and @players command :) 05:49:39 Mu_ already asked to have it show the uncut version in queries 05:49:52 nothing is going unnoticed here :D 05:50:10 @players, the Director's Cut? :P 05:50:21 !tell doy Fixing the 35000 involves making the maps and ziggurat generation actually use the epilogues, so it's a few more new commits. 05:50:21 Keskitalo: OK, I'll let doy know. 05:50:25 Uncensored @players!!1! 05:50:32 I have no idea about Zig generation myself! 05:50:43 -!- Madtrixr has quit [*.net *.split] 05:50:44 -!- violetj has quit [*.net *.split] 05:50:46 Presumably uncensored @players will include xSHITLORDx's games :P 05:50:54 -!- Madtrixr has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:05 greensnark: The e.welcome messgae thing (which I had no idea of before) should probably automagically be used in an epilogue-way? 05:51:07 @players in jock straps? 05:51:07 soldroz (L24 @ Tomb:1, T:78962), Vandal (L22 @ Blade, T:61090), turnerjer (L11 @ Temple, T:16207), mars (L8 @ Temple, T:7934), Maniacuz (L3 @ D:3, T:2738), ajhager (L3 @ D:2, T:1940), murphyslaw (L3 @ D:2, T:1006), slickrick (L3 @ D:3, T:2170), damage (L1 @ D:1, T:0), greensnark (L1 @ D:1, T:0) 05:51:15 Keskitalo: It already is. 05:51:26 Oh! Good. :) 05:51:27 Keskitalo: e.welcome needs desperately to be documented, I'd never heard of it before. 05:51:36 Tru dat! 05:52:30 V. annoying. 05:52:39 I'd done all the work when I noticed it. 05:52:42 Epilogue is still better, though. 05:52:55 Aye. 05:54:39 -!- violetj has joined ##crawl-dev 06:08:37 devs: I keep trying to reanimate bread rations. This is epic UI fail and sucks. Please fix, kthxbai 06:09:05 Or at least allow animate dead to work on permafood! 06:09:21 Just think of the damage a zombie bread ration could do 06:13:40 the xcode project assumes that you've installed git using a package manager :( 06:13:55 -!- Xardas-3 has left ##crawl-dev 06:14:33 or at least it does assume the working directory is versioned using git 06:14:43 !tell Keskitalo My MuPr found Sewer with potion loot. :P 06:14:43