00:00:20 starting some casters with a slightly weaker version of the current quarterstaff would be neat 00:00:28 or making it an option 00:00:28 in one of my games there was an artifact dagger sold with fr++, see invis and some third resist <3 00:01:02 like if you know you want to be a "battle mage" type and you'll eventually be fighting with an elemental stave 00:01:11 being able to start training them from the start would be nice 00:01:22 qstaff is pretty common 00:01:47 yeah, it could be enough to just give them some caster egos that other weapons don't get 00:02:42 Do they interfere with spellcasting at all? 00:02:54 because I think I just had a bingo moment 00:03:22 lajatangs might 00:03:41 dual-handed weapons don't in general? 00:03:42 it's tied to delay, but only exceeding some funky number 00:03:47 ah 00:03:51 and possibly hands 00:04:13 that whole handedness system needs to be simplified a little.. I'll add another note for 0.7 00:08:13 does anyone know where the atittude change code is for attacking monsters? 00:08:21 like, if you attack aneutral and it then turns hostile? 00:10:42 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:13:29 due: it's like, alert_monster or something like that 00:13:39 due: noisy() calls it (with a different argument) 00:13:43 thanks 00:13:45 ahhh 00:13:49 that's where the confusion is 00:14:00 (do you use ctags?) 00:14:36 no :) 00:14:56 ah 00:14:58 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:02 behaviour_event(ME_ALERT)? 00:15:12 ME_WHACK is for attacking 00:15:26 okay 00:16:02 you ought to give ctags a try - run ctags *.cc *.h in your crawl source dir, then try :tag noisy to jump to the function 00:16:11 Thanks 00:16:14 also control-] with the cursor over a function name 00:16:25 one of the best vi(m) features imo 00:16:33 i have enter mapped to ^] 00:16:39 in normal mode 00:17:01 and backspace to ^T 00:19:39 man it is like I never took a break :) my first day back and I'm up until 1:20 am writing wiki pages 00:19:45 g'night guys, nice to see you again 00:20:04 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 00:20:44 :-? 00:31:18 -!- TGW has left ##crawl-dev 00:44:50 Is there a saner way to get a non-const version of a const monsters* than to do monsters mons* = monster_at(const_monster->pos())? 00:46:20 const_cast(const_monster) 00:46:26 ick 00:46:31 but if you have to do this, your code is completely wrong 00:46:34 yes 00:46:57 why are you taking a const parameter if you're just going to modify it? 00:47:08 if it's non-observable modification, use mutable fields 00:47:16 I'm not taking a const parameter 00:47:30 "because someone else made it const a while ago, and fixing this requires going back and changing constness of parameters all over the place" 00:47:36 doy: yes, exactly. 00:47:37 i've run into that one a bunch 00:47:43 I'm trying to call a function that takes a non-const parameter from another function that takes a const parameter. 01:01:14 damn it, this was working a minute ago 01:01:18 const_cast<> but 01:02:37 but? 01:02:52 it's bad design and evil 01:02:56 but don't use const_cast 01:03:00 hah. 01:03:04 if you're using const_cast, your code is broken 01:03:58 I could probably move the hook from there 01:04:47 if you're using const_cast to add const to something, that is probably fine 01:04:54 but removing it. hrr... 01:05:04 felirx: adding const to something is an automatic coercion 01:05:17 i know 01:06:21 I'll try another function that doesn't use a const argument. 01:06:32 or I could go back and convert all parameters to non-const and murder someone. 01:06:53 better would be to figure out which parts actually need to be const 01:06:57 but that's hard 01:07:03 const correctness ftw 01:07:12 const :( 01:07:19 changing everything to non-const will just cause this sort of problem again in the future 01:07:22 if you're not planning on modifying it, const it -) 01:07:24 const correctness is dumb 01:07:27 and irritating 01:08:07 it's nice in theory, but just ends up causing all kinds of issues like this if you decide to change the code structure in the future 01:08:25 felirx: And if you end up deciding you need to modify it in future? 01:08:45 then your code was not const correct ;( 01:09:16 no, it was--until you decided you had to modify something at a later date in order to account for a new, previously unforseen feature. 01:13:45 Do I bother dealing with Duvessa killing Dowan while in an insane frenzy? 01:15:41 I think that if, by any means, the play tricks one twin into killing the other, the surviving twin should go insane and attempt suicide 01:16:04 also, how does the player berserk duvessa while dowan is alive 01:30:30 Needles of frenzy. 01:38:57 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:47 Hm. 01:48:55 I thought Eino fixed the racial mutations thing? 01:57:47 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:47 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:04:41 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:41 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:09:55 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:55 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:13:43 doy: Can you cherry-pcik 04479e72 when you do your next batch? 02:13:54 due: sure 02:13:54 there's stlil some bugs that I have to work out, but that's 90% of the unideal issues solved 02:14:05 such as using enslavement wands to get duvessa to kkill dowan 02:14:27 (@the_moster@ screams, "What have I done? How can I live, after this!?" 02:15:48 Three bugs only assigned to me! 02:15:54 Though one of them is kinda essential. 02:16:31 kilobyte: About to do Wayne now. 02:17:43 Then I'll start on Louise, and that'll be everyone using mercenary speech goone goone goone. 02:17:52 Also, we need to cull "grins evilly". 02:17:58 It's a terrible cliche and occurs up to ten times in monspeak.txt. 02:18:08 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:18:09 doy: thanks. :) 02:18:11 * due goes for dinner. 02:21:27 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:27 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:22:59 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:48 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:48 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:29:55 Cherry-picked 0 commits into master 02:30:14 hmmm 02:35:24 once CIA-a-like is working, I wonder if Ashenzari should hang out in ##crawl 02:35:43 I'm lazy and I miss the days when I didn't have to *say* "I've committed a fix for your issue" 02:35:45 that'll require me making him able to handle more than one channel at once 02:35:46 (: 02:36:03 i think he's most of the way there, probably 02:40:02 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46:53 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:53 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:56:39 ahhh 02:56:50 Reading Glasgow slang glossaries is hilarious 02:58:46 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:46 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 03:02:46 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:58 Okay, so... 03:22:00 kilobyte: Pushed Wayne tweaks, let me know what you think? 03:24:04 * r5d32a89e1d2f7b7a0ab364a302396cd1f4e45972 ( changed): 03:24:05 * ra5e4f605f9d28c201148f78438f42acb7f7e4ffa ( changed): 03:24:05 * rab54351e489d30e1c9a83f79985bc6038681cdd2 ( changed): 03:24:05 * ra86950dd8194d2f60ee758dbcedf46636d16c31b ( changed): 03:24:05 Enne Walker * ra1f98bc9e0496ce9c3ef4cc72f3984dbaa11b314 ( changed): More invalid cases for spell/memorise tile tabs. (cherry picked from commit d78d8ba2d6919916b85cd3c15f19402c7a726ecd) 03:24:05 * r4e4675eb2f65092e9bb131128d9746250daf9792 ( changed): 03:24:05 * r882eb1377569ae10bba4c0f427750a887868dc99 ( changed): 03:24:05 * r82d4c00af4fd2425a895a19b45fce5b1b5eefe0c ( changed): 03:24:05 * rea1d030600c06196e8ed97dc0327d30b00cbc066 ( changed): 03:24:05 * r927646f01b73d6eb55e3621588f22615bfb76cb7 ( changed): 03:24:05 * rbaebe934c8e27d8b7b878089c3d2f348d4b5f3b6 ( changed): 03:24:05 * r5b5a6d839ef62e3f5401bce4f177796eaea02c48 ( changed): 03:24:05 Adam Borowski * rc31d19c553a181de66b75d938422d4b5d19dc3a5 ( changed): Remove references to Divinations from the manual (MarvinPA) (cherry picked from commit 5aac0e8c30b7c6a5a0851abe6dc9c7cec2881117) 03:24:05 Nathaniel Rook * r0af979f856971358adf0f38194d286af81c2e4bd ( changed): Don't let player ghosts get bonus hp from berserking or transformations. (cherry picked from commit 7f45921f4e8aaafd1d42c45fa97c95ed4e0365a1) 03:24:05 Jude Brown * r3232ae77f7f24d0a2ef8c8e58724ab50219ecbef ( changed): Move Troves into their own namespace, weight maps based on skills. (cherry picked from commit e0de975c4015d082e430cd882661fc20c2b7b8dc) 03:24:05 * r2ede5c1c10d69c3a969bcd34995c4a9dc8dc4cf6 ( changed): 03:24:05 * rc703162f160d3362caaae8f1bdef6c810c92aaa6 ( changed): 03:24:05 Johanna Ploog * re48c7fd9057a8ac1df7f04c1c6387fab99c72bb9 ( changed): Add a new canned_msg for "You don't know any spells." (cherry picked from commit 78021c021fcca48d7d08b73ff796860d248a9384) 03:24:10 Awesome! 03:24:16 ...heh 03:34:44 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:44 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 03:37:49 kilobyte: it's how you say"Do you understand" on Burns NIght 03:38:49 Or "do you know". Standard Scots phrases! 03:39:12 yes 03:39:21 but written in phonetic scots engilsh 03:39:26 Yeah. 03:39:47 sort of like "writink like ze Chermanss speek" 03:40:06 da 03:40:43 si 03:41:32 still got nothing for Louise. 03:41:42 Asides from translocating sorcerers. 03:41:49 Sorceress, blech. 03:42:15 si is valid writing, though 03:42:17 da isn't 03:42:48 hm 03:43:00 true 03:44:54 Cherry-picked 1 commits into stone_soup-0.6 03:45:11 Nice! 03:46:05 but which 1 commits? 03:47:51 patches welcome! 03:48:17 i'm going to sleep 03:48:23 sleep well 03:49:47 Oh right I forgot Ashenzari was public :p 03:49:57 Jude Brown * rc96fa376b231 ( changed): Fix typo: vengence -> vengeance (Jiyva's wrath). 03:50:55 -!- scarf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:53:17 hey scarf 03:54:07 hi 03:55:31 hello 04:00:41 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:41 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 04:05:47 Jude Brown * rbcfed18fc408 ( changed): "There is Edmund nearby!" --> "Edmund is nearby!" 04:05:48 Cherry-picked 2 commits into stone_soup-0.6 04:08:33 kilobyte: how is the AC nerf holding up? 04:08:43 I saw you get annihilated by an ogre there 04:11:32 well, MDs are no longer untouchable 04:12:13 Morning! 04:12:17 due: No, didn't fix it yet. 04:13:00 You're doing CIA's job now? That's pretty cool! 04:26:25 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:26:33 moin guys :) 04:26:33 Napkin: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 04:27:32 Heya Napkin! 04:27:58 Eino :) 04:28:32 I saw your blog article in draft mode.. wanna read mooooaahhh \o/ 04:28:37 Hee. :) 04:29:06 Good to hear. Perhaps tonight I'll write more. 04:29:13 cool :) 04:30:09 Napkin: I have a Mantis question/problem/FR.. The links in the news posts! They seem to always show the full adress. 04:30:28 I'd like to make the helpful front page sticky post more readable. 04:30:37 The links are unwieldy. :/ 04:30:46 I agree 04:30:55 Keskitalo: Yes, I've got you lined up for this week's play-testing post--if you're finished 04:31:01 And David's doing something on Divinations 04:31:09 due! 04:31:11 :) 04:31:20 Napkin: Should I file? 04:31:22 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:28 Napkin: Did you see my message about a non-tiles build of trunk? 04:31:49 oh 04:31:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [] 04:31:56 feel free 04:32:16 Napkin: I'm not sure how :( 04:32:19 i'm going to check on it, right after finishing this coffee and putting on some bandages 04:32:27 sorry, meant Eino 04:32:43 due: you mean Trunk - not 0.6 branch, right? 04:32:46 Yeah 04:32:50 Just a one-off for now 04:32:58 will we need it on a regular base? 04:32:58 I committed some code for tgw into the dev version which won't go into branch 04:34:12 ok 04:34:32 let me think.. what about the archives page - it's sorted by date, right? 04:34:40 yes 04:35:16 do we want to prevent the trunk builds from showing up there? 04:35:37 until 0.6 is released, i mean? 04:35:39 hm, they probably won't 04:36:00 doesn't seem reasonable, considering there will probably be a lot of such things 04:36:09 HTML links are always shown in full (ok for reports, noisy for news posts) (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=813) by evktalo 04:36:09 yeah 04:36:11 it's only a few weeks, either 04:36:30 but we want them to show up in the archive only, right? not on the main page for now, huh? 04:36:52 yeah 04:36:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:56 wel, it doesn't have to show up at all 04:36:57 could you rewrite the archive page to show every build? without filtering the first? 04:37:04 sure... 04:37:08 i think it should 04:37:19 it could do to be "sectioned" 04:37:21 will look shortly 04:37:38 not sure sections are necessary 04:37:51 thanks, Keskitalo :) 04:39:32 Oooh, excellent, the Frances tile does have a large scar on her fac.e 04:40:42 I still have no inspiration for Louise that's interesting. 04:42:05 She could perhaps worship Lugonu? 04:42:25 Ooooh. 04:43:03 ??lugonu 04:43:03 lugonu[1/3]: Lugonu grants the ability to leave the abyss, {bend space}, banish monsters to the abyss, invoke {corruption}, and teleport freely within the abyss. You can banish yourself instantly at a permanent maxhp cost, and permanently distortion-brand a weapon once at an altar of Lugonu, which can be easily made by using {corruption} in the Temple. 04:43:52 I'm thinking she only converted to Lugonu fairly recently. (No Corruption, no distortion) 04:43:53 my random idea: she's very meditative, and can't stand your presence. LEAVE. NOW. 04:43:56 ??louise 04:43:57 louise[1/1]: She banishes regularly, stings, blinks, stone arrows, lightning bolts and heals herself. She comes equipped with a heavy armor and a large shield. 04:45:32 Make her a naga. :] She would have died if she didn't convert to Lugonu. 04:45:55 Hehehe. 04:46:33 Banishing but slow moving monster would be interesting. Could add more SPELL_BANISHMENT to the book. :) 04:46:57 A naga who is *very bothered by your presense* and wants you to LEAVE. 04:46:59 Yeah, but we're just doing flavour now, so it can go into 0.6. 04:47:03 Ideally, the level. 04:47:11 Ideally, the universe. In a body bag. 04:47:35 @The_monster@ says, "I just had an out-of-body experience. Join me!" 04:47:52 Sounds like a Norris line though. 04:48:19 I'd like to give her Phase Shift come 0.7 04:49:39 easy enough 04:49:44 we can do it now 04:49:50 just, in a separate patch 04:49:53 yeah 04:50:04 cherry-pick ftw 04:50:15 yay cherries 04:51:28 Maybe dispersal? 04:52:16 -!- scarf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:55:33 due: Yes, would fit great with sorear's idea. Also Abjuration? 04:55:50 Not an explicit monster spell, I thin 04:56:24 RFC 04:56:28 http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 04:56:30 -!- scarf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:34 http://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:start 04:57:28 Enough user documentation? 04:59:31 there can never be too many user documentation that the user doesn't read :) 05:00:54 but a little more on-topic: shall the player be able to pick up containers? 05:01:04 Keskitalo: Did you see the new death effects on the twins? 05:01:19 Prompt before equipping cursed items (http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=814) by OG17 05:01:43 bhaak: No. And to earlier discussion: when the chest is opened (by the player), contents are visible to the whole game world. 05:02:06 Containers in my crawl? :o :o :o 05:02:30 hm, okay 05:02:33 due: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:misc:chests 05:03:01 due: containers is probably a misnomer :) but things-that-keep-things is not a better name 05:03:43 Keskitalo: dpeg did not just veto instantly? :) 05:03:45 I like the idea of a spilling chest 05:04:18 Also, Nethack has containers. D&D too! 05:04:26 was that a veto? :-) 05:04:44 Hm. 05:04:50 nethack has iceboxes 05:04:50 Actually, I like that proposal. 05:04:51 :D 05:04:55 But what glyph? 05:04:57 finding one with wraith corpses is awesome 05:05:45 We have no glyph for chests, though! 05:06:04 ,? 05:06:41 you could re-use }, which would be the equivalent to NetHack's solution 05:06:49 Chests and fountains, hm. 05:07:08 well, in nethack it's lumped with misc items 05:07:30 that means '(' 05:07:45 yep, but Crawl uses different glyphs 05:07:48 due: Hit refresh, I restructured the page. 05:08:00 it is a kind of tool, that's why it's in there 05:08:03 so in NetHack, a chest looks like a candelabrum, in Crawl it looks like a rune 05:08:06 (although less shiny and obvious) 05:08:06 keskitalo, btw, the BR page is a bit confusing, so many options and redundancy 05:08:36 cbus: Report Issues page? Or which? 05:08:40 yeah 05:08:53 "You should've seen it before" P 05:08:54 :P 05:09:08 well now you have 24 million mandatory options 05:09:16 that are really offputting 05:09:24 aka, "bah someone else will report it, to much hassle" 05:09:34 too much hassle, too little hof 05:09:42 Three mandatory options, plus summary and description? 05:09:53 yeah :) 05:10:29 whats the difference between CAO CONSOLE and CDO CONSOLE? 05:11:08 (I bet its CDO has trunk) but why do I then have to pick version? :) 05:12:08 because the saves directories are separate 05:12:17 hmm, it seems that some bug reporters have nethack envy; there's that commenter on #766 complaining that you can't berserk monsters by portal-projectiling a potion of berserk rage at them 05:12:19 and they run slightly different compile options iirc 05:12:34 scarf: Yeah, we were laughing about that earlier. 05:12:59 it doesn't fit with Crawl's philosophy; that sort of thing is generally possible in NetHack, though 05:13:24 cbus: What sorear said. 05:13:31 Waiting for the in-game bug reporting feature. :P 05:14:04 heh, that /definitely/ doesn't fit in with NetHack's philosophy 05:14:15 cbus: I don't think we can do with lesser information from a reporter, but I agree there's a lot of options under that pull-down. CAO/CDO doesn't probably say anything to a tiles player. 05:14:20 keskitalo, well, that explains stuff 05:14:25 but it did confuse me :) 05:14:30 Good to know. :) 05:15:57 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:43 due: No, haven't seen the death effects, if they're really new. :) 05:19:53 btw 05:20:00 Keskitalo: If you use enslavement to get one to kill another--they have different speeches. 05:20:06 Neat. :) 05:20:13 the funky vault with human dying to miasma and being ressurrected as a zombei is a bit bugged (doesn't always leave a corpse) 05:20:15 due: I paid 180g to lock that trove, I demand a refund :( 05:20:20 cbus: It's fixed in trunk. 05:20:24 ahh ok 05:20:25 syllogism: what's it asking for? 05:20:34 a book of bugginess, didn't you get the !tell 05:20:40 oh crap 05:20:43 I forgot to look at that 05:20:55 there's annihilations and some randart book in a shop 05:21:01 I take it they aren't going to work 05:21:17 necronomicon? 05:21:39 Is your save game still there? 05:21:47 yes 05:21:49 @whereis syllogism 05:21:50 well 05:21:50 syllogism the Black Belt (L17 DSTm), a worshipper of Cheibriados, saved on Lair:1 on 2010-02-14 after 59611 turns. 05:21:54 I'm not at the trove 05:21:55 mind saving so I can grab it? 05:21:56 no, that's fine 05:21:58 I have wizmode 05:22:04 it says saved :P 05:22:16 !apt SE 05:22:16 SE: Air=80, Armour=140, Axes=130, Bows=100, Conj=130, Xbows=100, Darts=100, Div=130, Dodge=70, Earth=80, Ench=130, Evo=82, Exp=120, Fighting=80, Fire=80, Ice=80, Inv=75, Long=110, Maces=140, Nec=90, Poison=80, Polearms=140, Shields=130, Short=110, Slings=100, Splcast=91, Stab=100, Staves=100, Stealth=75, Summ=90, Throw=70, Tloc=100, Tmut=60!, Traps=100, Unarmed=80! 05:22:19 done 05:22:23 can you get orb of destruction with sif? 05:22:31 will look once I finish this for napkin 05:22:37 btw, the range of orb of destruction seems a bit quirky 05:22:44 sometimes when it shows stuff are in range the orb just disappears 05:22:50 before it reaches it 05:23:15 yeah, i had that too 05:23:19 did you move backwards 05:23:29 the range is your LOS 05:23:32 mostly 05:23:34 did you move at all 05:23:35 no 05:24:01 sorear: is it intended that monsters can partially resist hellfire with just +rf 05:24:02 What would be a good name for this page? "Somethingsomething Specification"? http://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mantis:howto 05:24:05 if the orb ever exits your los, it instapoofs 05:24:30 syllogism: i bet it was an oversight 05:24:48 syllogism: back when Darshan nerfed player rF+ by removing its hellfire resistance 05:25:10 * sorear poof 05:25:26 makes the ds hellfire quite a bit worse 05:26:54 btw, does sif gift a boko with orb of destruction? 05:27:07 (gonna try if I can get the bug again) 05:27:54 cbus: sif gives randart books with every spell in the game 05:30:12 also while the DS overhaul is semipostponed, it's a bit awkward to give Throw Flame at xl ~24 05:30:33 what's the wizmode command to create a trove entry (not a portal leading to straight a trove, but rather the timed portal?) 05:31:17 does &L enter_trove_0 work 05:31:38 &Lenter_trove_1 05:31:48 ah, thanks 05:33:00 doy: oh, please remind me that the wizlabs need loot balance before the release 05:33:05 some of them have waay too much loot, others too little. 05:35:21 Hngh, have I broken my tiles building. 05:35:33 yes :( 05:35:37 * due glues it back together. 05:36:31 I seem to be missing a tiledef-unrand.cc.. 05:36:51 Keskitalo: Can you look at http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/archive.html and tell me what you think? 05:36:55 Napkin skedaddled on me. 05:37:44 due: Looks really good to me, thanks for this. :) 05:38:02 I really should file that "paths with �mlauts", shouldn't I? :D 05:38:05 You should 05:38:10 It now shows the current version on the archive page, too 05:38:23 and the prereleases up the top 05:38:39 !tell TGW http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/crawl-0.7.0-a0-32-gbcfed18.zip 05:38:39 due: OK, I'll let TGW know. 05:39:01 syllogism: I'm guessing it wants a Necronomicon or something. 05:39:18 wants or attempted to want 05:39:26 so would a necronomicon work 05:39:29 no 05:39:36 it's special-cased in a piece of other code that I didn't notice 05:39:55 as is monster manual, young poisoner's handbook and tome of destruction. 05:40:04 there's a manual of fighting too 05:40:10 hm 05:40:17 buger, it might be that 05:44:15 -!- TGW has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:56 TGW: left you a message 05:45:24 !messages 05:45:24 (1/1) due said (6m 45s ago): http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/crawl-0.7.0-a0-32-gbcfed18.zip 05:45:29 whee! 05:47:19 you're welcome 05:54:28 it works and is awesome 05:54:30 :) 05:57:22 looks awesome, due :) 06:06:28 Can someone pastebin their tiledef-unrand.cc for me? :P 06:06:59 Wait, I have another copy. 06:19:43 Thanks to due - we are now hosting windows binaries of 0.6.0-aN and 0.7.0-aN in SDL & ncurses on http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ - While the main page only shows 0.6.0-a2 for now, the archive has 0.7.0-a0 builds as well. 06:19:57 Keskitalo? 06:21:31 we now have these 4 scripts: update-mingw-{0.6-,}{non-,}tiles.sh 06:29:11 excellent 06:30:22 I'm invisible and saint roka is still smiting me :( 06:31:15 syllogism, no no, saint roka isn't 06:31:24 syllogism, beogh is, she is just calling for his powers 06:31:25 :D 06:31:45 atleast thats one way to look atit 06:32:05 syllogism, how the fuck did you get those crazy stats? 06:32:16 chei gives +15 to all stats if you wear 5 ponderous items 06:32:17 cheibriados. 06:32:36 syllogism, keep spamming curare or zap her to hell 06:32:46 maybe I can tele him 06:32:48 @?? saint roka 06:32:48 Saint Roka (12o) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 200 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Damage: 35 | Flags: evil | Res: 06magic(72) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 8385 | Sp: smiting. 06:32:56 that's the only wand I have :P 06:33:04